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Re: Vatican 2 Sect "Jesuit" "Priest" says God has "'They' Pronouns"
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2021, 12:03:32 PM »
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  • Since about the 1940s, "Jesuit" and "heretic" have become nearly synonymous ... with some notable exceptions (such as Father Feeney) ... although you had many early pioneers (such as Chardin).  Ever since the Renaissance, the Jesuits have in fact been the most "humanistic" and liberal of theologians.


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    Re: Vatican 2 Sect "Jesuit" "Priest" says God has "'They' Pronouns"
    « Reply #2 on: October 03, 2021, 12:03:38 PM »
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  • Metaphysically-speaking, those pronouns would be fine because God is essentially genderless since He is spirit. But, quite obviously He refers to Himself as "He" so the point is moot. Further pushback is refuted by the simple fact that pure act is masculine because it is non-receptive, while creatures are receptive, so a male pronoun would still be most appropriate in reference to God.

    So now this heretic is an idiot on two points of theology.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

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    Re: Vatican 2 Sect "Jesuit" "Priest" says God has "'They' Pronouns"
    « Reply #3 on: October 03, 2021, 12:10:17 PM »
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  • Metaphysically-speaking, those pronouns would be fine because God is essentially genderless since He is spirit. But, quite obviously He refers to Himself as "He" so the point is moot. Further pushback is refuted by the simple fact that pure act is masculine because it is non-receptive, while creatures are receptive, so a male pronoun would still be most appropriate in reference to God.

    So now this heretic is an idiot on two points of theology.

    "They" might in fact be rather appropriate, but only because the plural is a royal form, and the singular name of the One True God in the Old Testament Hebrew was in fact a plural ... hinting to us about the Three Persons of the Holy Trinity before they were formally revealed.  Nevertheless, this priest's agenda is to condone gender-neutrality.  Certainly, God is above gender, in that He has all the perfections of both the masculine and the feminine, but the term Father is not merely a gender term.  It's a term of relationship as well.  Fathers are the heads of their families, and that is why Our Lord calls Him Our Father.  It is in fact the erosion of the notion that men are the heads of societies that has led to this point.  If there's no distinction (other than gender) between a father and a mother, then this might even make some sense.  But there is.  In fact, even Wojtyla correctly taught (in broken clock fashion) that there are ONTOLOGICAL differences (and not merely physical) between men and women.  For Our Lord to have called God "Mother" would have put him in a subordinate position to some unknown and unspecified head.

    In other words, it's this notion of gender equality that does not acknowledge any essential and ontological differences between men and women (reducing them to mere physical accidents) that has led to this point.

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    Re: Vatican 2 Sect "Jesuit" "Priest" says God has "'They' Pronouns"
    « Reply #4 on: October 03, 2021, 12:36:14 PM »
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  • Since about the 1940s, "Jesuit" and "heretic" have become nearly synonymous ... with some notable exceptions (such as Father Feeney) ... although you had many early pioneers (such as Chardin).  Ever since the Renaissance, the Jesuits have in fact been the most "humanistic" and liberal of theologians.
    Be careful!! If you mention why the Jesuits are so humanistic this will be labeled a "Feeneyite" thread.
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    Re: Vatican 2 Sect "Jesuit" "Priest" says God has "'They' Pronouns"
    « Reply #5 on: October 03, 2021, 02:28:30 PM »
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  • Heretic sodomite probably. 
    Only sodomites corrupt the English language intentionally.

    I refer to him as “it”. 


    (I sometimes butcher the English language but not intentionally.) 
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    « Reply #6 on: October 03, 2021, 02:41:25 PM »
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  • Be careful!! If you mention why the Jesuits are so humanistic this will be labeled a "Feeneyite" thread.

    Well, it started with Molinism and continued on from there.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 03, 2021, 02:48:03 PM »
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  • Well, it started with Molinism and continued on from there.
    Not saying your prescriptions are incorrect at all, I agree. Moreover the EENS softening took centuries.
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