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Rome is full of rabbis, ʝʊdɛօ-masonics and despicable QUEERS!
A manger of darkness (in the Vatican)
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In the Vatican Square they have put a manger, but a manger of darkness, with dead and naked man included. What do a dead and naked man do in a manger? But what twisted minds are the authors of such desecration of the mystery of the birth of the Child God?
Nothing less than in the heart of Christianity puts on an offensive and blasphemous manger. We are before an example of the new evangelization, which has as its flag blasphemy, sacrilege and apostasy.
It's a manger mockery.
It is an offensive and blasphemous crib.
It is a manger that leaves the tradition completely.
It is a nightmare crib, which takes away sleep.
It is a manger without tenderness.
It is a manger fruit of twisted and dirty minds.
It is a crib infused and inspired by Satan himself.
It is a manger that destroys the truth of the Catholic faith.
It is a manger that offends the most intimate Catholic sensibility.
It is an ugly manger, without taste, to run away.
It is a manger that shows a false scene to confuse and induce error.
It is a manger that deserves a rejection of the faithful on the level of the universal Church.
We are before the work of the human mind, but without Catholic faith; it is the twisted mind of the mocking and burlesque man, charlatan and reveler, sacrilegious and perverted; it is the mind of the desecrator of the sacred, who laughs at the unchanging faith of tradition; It is the mind of man who plays at being a little god, who imposes his miserable ideas as an object of worship and belief.
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Where is the joy of the moment with the dead man in the manger? Where the sanctity? Where the immaculate purity of the scene of the Holy Family with the naked man? Where is the mystery of the birth of the Child God? Where is the mystery of the Redemptive Work? God becomes man to redeem man from sin, so what does a naked man do? Where is the modesty, the innocence, the purity, the chastity, the modesty, the honesty that inspires the scene of the manger?
We are facing an inadmissible offense to the foundations of the faith.
All the faithful should flood the Vatican with letters and emails of rejection for such an offense to the Child God, to the purity of Mary and the chastity of Saint Joseph.
We can not keep quiet any longer. The Vatican is offended by our faith. From the head of the Church flows the mud that dirtied the face of the Church.
Let us move, but not to support heresy and sacrilege, if not to oppose it. Let us begin by addressing our most vigorous rejection of the Vatican and the Papal Nuncio in each country.
Catholics say: ENOUGH! Do not offend our faith anymore!
Carlos María Rey
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That is creepy. With sodomists, there is always naked men.
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By their deeds you shall know them.
It could not be more obvious.
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I don't want to go to Church.
This isn't the Catholic Church.
Is it a sin if I miss Mass?
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I don't want to go to Church.
This isn't the Catholic Church.
Is it a sin if I miss Mass?
IMHO, I'd suggest finding an independent TLM chapel and assisting at Mass there.
We've been in the catacombs for several years now, but most Catholics don't want to admit it.
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Do you think Michaelangelo with his nude crucifixion, multitude of nudes, and buttocks of God would approve of this? Probably. I mean, where do you think he learned how to carve such sculptures? He learned to from exposed dead people. So, the corpse in this nativity scene isn't so far off. Rome has a long tradition of the utilizing the dead corpse. So, if you aren't going to complain about the causes, don't complain about the symptoms.
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So this is the latest outrage. It fits the pattern.
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In past years, there have been scandals in the manger scene at St. Peter's Basilica, too.
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In 2014 a topless woman FEMEN protestor snatched the infant Jesus from the crib the day after the Pope had placed Him there.
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About 3 years ago I recall hearing about an alarming fad of stealing the infant Jesus from Nativity scenes all over the world but I never looked up the story behind it.
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Here's one article still found online:
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https://www.rt.com/news/217703-femen-topless-jesus-christmas/
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A topless FEMEN protester tried to kidnap Baby Jesus from the manger at St. Peter's Square in Vatican City after the Pope's Christmas message on Thursday. The activist was stopped and arrested in front of shocked believers.
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With the words “God is woman” painted across her naked chest, the activist squeezed though a hole in a fence surrounding the nativity scene.
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The woman rushed to the manger in the center of the square, grabbed the Jesus figurine, and raised it above her head while shouting slogans against the Catholic Church. However, a Vatican guard was quick to block her. The activist was quickly covered with a coat and handed over to police.
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https://youtu.be/rITC3BNHs7Y
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The Jesus figurine was unveiled by the Pope during the Christmas Eve mass on Wednesday.
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READ MORE: Femen branch pelts Belgian PM with chips and mayo (VIDEO) (http://rt.com/news/216823-femen-belgian-attack-chips/)
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The action was in protest against “the centuries-old Vatican stance on women's rights for own body and reproductive function,” the group's webpage states. FEMEN has announced an anti-clerical "Massacre of the Innocents" campaign, calling for the stealing of Baby Jesus from churches around the world.
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“The maniacal desire to control women's fertility is a common trait of many religions, National Socialism, nationalism and other antediluvian, anti-humanist ideologies. Abortion is sacred,”the group says on its site (http://femen.org/).
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This is not the first time that FEMEN has targeted Vatican City. On November 14, several topless women protested in St. Peter's Square against Pope Francis’ visit to the European Parliament in
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Strasbourg. Their slogan that time was “The pope is not a politician, god is not a magician.”
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READ MORE: Topless Femen deface Christian cross in Vatican (GRAPHIC VIDEO) (http://rt.com/news/205647-femen-vatican-topless-cross/)
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FEMEN is a radical feminist protest group founded in Ukraine in 2008. The group is now based in Paris. The organization has become internationally known for its topless protests against religious institutions, sexism, homophobia, and other social, national, and international issues.
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Curious article -- Intro image is from some unidentified previous year, but the text anticipates THIS year's creche (2017/11/22):
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https://www.romereports.com/en/2017/11/22/preparations-begin-for-christmas-manger-in-st-peters-square/
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Preparations begin for Christmas manger in St. Peter's Square
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In a tradition introduced by John Paul II during his papacy 35 years ago, St. Peter's Square will showcase a large Christmas manger beginning on December 7.
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Work has already begun in the square, as craftsmen are building the structure of the enclosure.
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These iron bars will provide support for the birth, which will occupy almost 900 square feet and measure nearly 23 feet tall. It will be composed of 20 life-size clay figures. The scene will be in the Neapolitan style of the 1970s. It's a gift from the Territorial Abbey of Montevergine, in Benevento, Italy.
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The idea seems to excite tourists who come to the square to see St. Peter's Basilica.
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“Putting a nativity scene here in St. Peter's Square seems completely normal to me, because it is, after all, a church. The nativity scene is a Christian representation of Christ's birth.”
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“I think it's great. The nativity scene is the symbol of Christmas.”
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The display will be unveiled on December 7, on the eve of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. However, in accordance with Italian tradition, the baby Jesus won't be placed in His manger until December 25.
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Apparently the anticipation for this scene was built up to promote a feeling of normal Advent enthusiasm, with everyone saying that it was going to be "completely normal," "great... the symbol of Christmas," "seems to excite tourists."
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And then came the REALITY unveiled right on time, December 7th. With a difference. The angel cherubs have a shocked, horrified expression while they look upon a disturbing scene; one angel appears to be stricken with grief, he's crying.
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Do you think Michaelangelo with his nude crucifixion, multitude of nudes, and buttocks of God would approve of this? Probably. I mean, where do you think he learned how to carve such sculptures? He learned to from exposed dead people. So, the corpse in this nativity scene isn't so far off. Rome has a long tradition of the utilizing the dead corpse. So, if you aren't going to complain about the causes, don't complain about the symptoms.
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I disagree.
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Rome has a long tradition of utilizing the dead corpse but not in a Nativity scene.
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Even though Michaelangelo's works were alarming to many at the time, he was not a purveyor of retrograde putrefaction of virtue.
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He studied the form of the human body so he could accurately depict it in his art, but he did not portray degeneracy among saints.
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A dead corpse is one thing and glorifying the misery of angels and naked men at the Nativity of Our Lord is really twisted.
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A dead corpse and a naked man in torment has never been part of the manger scene.
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Why would you think that's a good idea? This corpse has one arm dangling like it's become a zombie -- just your thing, eh?
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The whole objective of this year's St. Peter's Square (actually it's Bernini's Square at St. Peter's Basilica) is shock and scandal.
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neil obstat - shame on you. I have been a member of this forum for years. Of course I object to this manger scene. But, I object more to the fact that catholics no longer believe in the corporal works of mercy, particularly that of burying the dead. All of this nudity in our art is either the forbidden fruit of neglecting to bury the dead, or of immodesty. Both are not catholic. But, trads applaud and venerate its by product in art. Except, when they are not currently being weaponized by us, as in our day. It is all kiss up and kick down theology. Turn Christ into an idol or an idolater. Of course he is not an idolater. But, that is not the only thing I will complain about. Christ is neither an idol. Christ is the messiah, true God and true man.
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neil obstat - shame on you. I have been a member of this forum for years. Of course I object to this manger scene. But, I object more to the fact that catholics no longer believe in the corporal works of mercy, particularly that of burying the dead. All of this nudity in our art is either the forbidden fruit of neglecting to bury the dead, or of immodesty. Both are not catholic. But, trads applaud and venerate its by product in art. Except, when they are not currently being weaponized by us, as in our day. It is all kiss up and kick down theology. Turn Christ into an idol or an idolater. Of course he is not an idolater. But, that is not the only thing I will complain about. Christ is neither an idol. Christ is the messiah, true God and true man.
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Let's get this straight -- PG logic in process:
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>> Rome has a long tradition of utilizing the dead corpse.
>> Burying the dead is a corporal work of mercy.
>> Therefore Catholics who object to this Manger scene, no longer believe in burying the dead.
>> Michelangelo learned sculpture of the living by studying corpses of the dead.
>> And the corpse in this nativity scene isn't too far off from Michelangelo's style.
>> Therefore, Michelangelo would approve of this new Manger scene in Bernini's Square.
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Of course I object to this manger scene.
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You have an odd way of expressing your objection, especially when you complain about Catholics who object to it.
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All of this nudity in our art is either the forbidden fruit of neglecting to bury the dead, or of immodesty. Both are not catholic. But, trads applaud and venerate its by product in art. Except, when they are not currently being weaponized by us, as in our day.
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What are they that are not currently being weaponized, again? Nudity? Art? Forbidden fruit? Burying of the dead? Catholics? Trads? Immodesty's by-product in art? All these things? ("they are" is plural).
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neil - You type and communicate like an uneducated teenager. I am drawing a parallel between the fact that nudity in catholic art is 100% proximate to catholic neglect of burying the dead/approval of their study/dissection. Did you get that? The theological word is proximate, meaning they are close. Yes, this manger is hideous. But, what you are complaining about has of recent tradition been the churches compliment in art, ironically enough. Shamefully, nudity(the byproduct of burial neglect/corpse study and/or immodest carnal revealing) has been a compliment in catholic art for the past 650 years. And, there is a 100% parallel. Just look at the art pre and post 1450. There is a night and day difference. So, just because you don't know what goes on behind the scenes(corpse study/dissection), doesn't mean that you are not held in some way responsible(especially if you approve of it) or affected by its damaging effects(denying corporal mercy).
In sum, these nudes are inspired and aided by satan, the modern examples not excluded.
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Here is more sinful mangers:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/a-hipster-holy-family-out-of-the-ordinary-nativities-on/article_a9ddc804-cb40-560c-9f4b-b5dd5e35c20a.html#tracking-source=home-top-story-1
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Here it is:
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If anyone wants to leave a voice message for Msgr. John Myler, the rector of the Cathedral of St. Peter in Belleville regarding the blasphemous hippy liberal nativity the phone number is 618-234-1166.
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What type of religion is this!!!!!
It is certainly is not Christian and Catholic.
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The top photo in the OP has an empty crib with everyone standing around looking like they're shocked, as if they're reacting to the baby Jesus suddenly missing.
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Then you see the nude man lying on a pile of hay, and you think wait -- is this supposed to take the place of the baby Jesus? Then there's the stretcher to the right with a dead man's arm hanging out, which appears to be the same left arm the nude man raises up. Is the corpse supposed to be the same man as the nude one on the hay? Then you notice there is an empty-looking cave on the left with two men in postures of surprise, as if to say who broke into the cave? Or is it an empty tomb?
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Then in the later article you see this:
The display will be unveiled on December 7, on the eve of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. However, in accordance with Italian tradition, the baby Jesus won't be placed in His manger until December 25.
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They're going to do more on December 25th than just put the baby Jesus in the manger. They're going to change all the other figures too, by moving their limbs and turning their torsos and perhaps even changing their heads so that everyone is happy that the baby Jesus has been found! They'll probably remove the dead man, or else raise him to life; and the nude -- put on some clothes. Get it? Corporal work of mercy: clothe the naked? When you do these things for the least of my brethren you do it for me?
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The nude man's left hand will be accepting a loaf of bread from the man whose hand is now extended toward it with an out-of-place white cloth draped over them. The cloth will be removed and the bread loaf will tell a different story, feeding the hungry. His mouth is open toward the black king/wise man, whose hands are holding a vessel. But the vessel will be removed and replaced with an ampule that will be pouring wine into the man's open mouth.
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If this is on the property of Vatican City - is not the Pope in charge? So this would be allowed with his permission?
(No surprise there - just sayin'...).
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Remember when this happened 3 years ago:
Doves released in the Vatican as a gesture of peace are immediately ATTACKED by vicious seagull and crow
I think God is showing His disgust for the new religion within the Vatican with symbolic happenings.
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Looks gαy.
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If this was meant to be some message about 'Christ coming to save mankind from it's cruel plight' -it has fallen horribly flat. Otherwise, it's creator is just demented. Next year the wise-men may be women and the shepherds might be kissing. :barf:
(I just realized that all the facial expressions and gestures look startled and distraught. Not too happy about the Savior's arrival?)
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The lightning strike on the Vatican the day Benedict resigned in 2013 was noteworthy:
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https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=lightning+strike+on+the+vatican&&view=detail&mid=77DDDE64E65B906C428377DDDE64E65B906C4283&FORM=VRDGAR
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I see the "Pope" of the Catholic Church has condemned this, right? ::)
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Take it for what it's worth, 2Vermont. No one likes these Popes, even God.
Typical.
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Take it for what it's worth, 2Vermont. No one likes these Popes, even God.
Typical.
Typical what?
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2Vermont - Let's start over. When you say, "condemned this," what do you mean? What is "this"?
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(I just realized that all the facial expressions and gestures look startled and distraught. Not too happy about the Savior's arrival?)
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The baby Jesus has literally not yet arrived. But that doesn't matter. Francis is taking full advantage of the chance to twist this scene into something it has never been before, for SHOCK value.
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It is an empty crib with everyone standing around looking like they're shocked, as if they're reacting to the baby Jesus suddenly missing.
This year's manger scene is obviously meant to be disturbing.
Who knows why they have these out-of-place figures and expressions, because no one is explaining it.
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It seems to me they're taking a lesson from museums and modern art exhibits in recent years which have featured disturbing images on display to the public (sometimes to paying viewers) without any explanation, in order to watch and listen to their reaction. Sometimes the viewing crowd BECOMES the actual display when others are making video recordings of the crowd's reaction, or including personal interviews with viewers.
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JPII introduced the pope's infatuation with clowns..
Now Francis is introducing his infatuation with making the Vatican into a circus.
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2Vermont - Let's start over. When you say, "condemned this," what do you mean? What is "this"?
What is the topic of the thread?
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Right - here is what he said:
In his explanation (http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/it/speeches/2017/december/docuмents/papa-francesco_20171207_delegazioni-alberopresepe.html) of the crèche, Pope Francis said: “This year’s Nativity scene, executed in the typical style of Neapolitan art, is inspired by the works of mercy. They remind us that the Lord has told us: ‘Whatever you wish men to do to you, you also do to them’ (Mt 7.12). The crib is the suggestive place where we contemplate Jesus who, taking upon himself the miseries of man, invites us to do likewise, through acts of mercy.”
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Right - here is what he said:
In his explanation (http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/it/speeches/2017/december/docuмents/papa-francesco_20171207_delegazioni-alberopresepe.html) of the crèche, Pope Francis said: “This year’s Nativity scene, executed in the typical style of Neapolitan art, is inspired by the works of mercy. They remind us that the Lord has told us: ‘Whatever you wish men to do to you, you also do to them’ (Mt 7.12). The crib is the suggestive place where we contemplate Jesus who, taking upon himself the miseries of man, invites us to do likewise, through acts of mercy.”
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What exactly do the expressions of alarm and stress on all the faces have to do with "works/acts of mercy?"
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The display will be unveiled on December 7, on the eve of the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. However, in accordance with Italian tradition, the baby Jesus won't be placed in His manger until December 25. [/font][/size][/color]
Given I am relatively new to the tradition of leaving the baby Jesus out of the manger until Christmas, could someone tell me if it is also tradition to have the Three Wise Men literally at the manger before Christmas? Why would they be there at all? I could see them on the road to get there, but to actually be there?
I think the fact that they are already there with an empty manger implies something very different than...."oh, it's tradition to leave the manger empty until Christmas".
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What exactly do the expressions of alarm and stress on all the faces have to do with "works/acts of mercy?"
So, I was wrong. Not only does the "pope" not condemn it, but he falsely gives it legitimacy.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ3KT5drJ8U (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ3KT5drJ8U)
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Given I am relatively new to the tradition of leaving the baby Jesus out of the manger until Christmas, could someone tell me if it is also tradition to have the Three Wise Men literally at the manger before Christmas? Why would they be there at all? I could see them on the road to get there, but to actually be there?
I think the fact that they are already there with an empty manger implies something very different than...."oh, it's tradition to leave the manger empty until Christmas".
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I don't claim to be an "expert" on this but in my experience, it is common practice among Catholics to keep the baby Jesus out of the manger scene until Christmas Day. Some like to keep the 3 Kings out as well, and even others don't bring the 3 Kings into the scene until January 6, Epiphany. I know of a monastery where the brothers set up the 3 Kings along the side of the road leading to their chapel, and each day they move the 3 Kings closer so that by Epiphany they are finally at the manger scene. Children are fascinated by seeing how the 3 Kings move every day.
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When I was a child my mother set up a manger scene in our home and she never had the 3 Kings until Epiphany and always had only Mary, Joseph, and a donkey and ox before Christmas, adding figures at the appropriate time. The manger scene was an historical commemoration.
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It seems Francis is trying to make the manger scene into a political statement or some kind of social justice display. The longstanding tradition of having the manger empty before Christmas might be just another play toy for Francis, who likes to make everything into a game or a stage prop for entertainment.
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I recall seeing a manger scene at a Lutheran church where they had the baby Jesus in the crib before Christmas and that seemed very strange, but then Protestants like to have Christmas all during December so that by the time the 25th comes, they're tired of it, and on the 26th they're pulling down the decorations, and the tree goes in the trash.
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A couple of decades before Vat II the Epiphany was called Three Kings Days in Canada, even on Church calendars.
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And in Hispanic homes, the three kings were brought out on the 6th of January as well, Los Reyes Mago (the Magi) and that is when the family opened their gifts.
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Here it is:
The perfect judaic setting.... Queers, millennials and iPhones.
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The Vatican Nativity scene featuring a naked man, a corpse, and no sheep or oxen is the artistic offering of an abbey which is the focus of Italian LGBT activists, it has emerged.
Enquiries by LifeSiteNews have revealed that the Abbey of Montevergine, which donated the innovative ‘Nativity of Mercy,’ houses the Marian image that has been adopted as patroness by LGBT activists in Italy. The abbey shrine is the annual destination of a sort of sacred and profane “ancestral gαy pride” pilgrimage which, according to one LGBT activist, in recent years has gained the “active, political participation of the LGBT community.”
An official of the Vatican’s Governorate has told LifeSiteNews that the abbey of Montevergine initially proposed the original idea for the ‘Nativity of Mercy.’ The Vatican discussed and developed a more detailed design with the abbey, then submitted final plans to the Secretary of State and Pope Francis for approval, which was duly granted.
“The presence of the Vatican Nativity Scene for us is a reason to be even happier this year,” Antonello Sannini, president of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activist group Arcigαy Naples, told LifeSiteNews on Tuesday. “For the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and transsɛҳuąƖ community in Naples, it is an important symbol of inclusion and integration.”
More here:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vaticans-sɛҳuąƖly-suggestive-nativity-has-troubling-ties-to-italys-lgbt-act
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"houses the Marian image that has been adopted as patroness by LGBT activists in Italy.
:o They have made Our Lady patroness of sodomites. This, I would think, demands reparation.
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There's a new story out of the Vatican this Christmas/midnightNewmass
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-christmas-season-pope-midnight-mass/pope-on-christmas-eve-says-faith-demands-respect-of-immigrants-idUSKBN1EI0K7
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Pope, on Christmas Eve, says faith demands respect of immigrants
Philip Pullella (https://www.reuters.com/journalists/philip-pullella)
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Francis, celebrating his fifth Christmas as leader of the world’s 1.2 billion Roman Catholics, led a solemn Mass for about 10,000 people in St. Peter’s Basilica while many others followed the service from the square outside.
Security was stepped up, with participants checked as they approached St. Peter’s Square even before going through metal detectors to enter the basilica. The square had been cleared out hours earlier so security procedures could be put in place.
The Gospel reading at the Mass in Christendom’s largest church recounted the Biblical story of how Mary and Joseph had to travel from Nazareth to Bethlehem to be registered for a census ordered by Roman Emperor Caesar Augustus.
“So many other footsteps are hidden in the footsteps of Joseph and Mary. We see the tracks of entire families forced to set out in our own day. We see the tracks of millions of persons who do not choose to go away, but driven from their land, leave behind their dear ones,” Francis said.
Even the shepherds who the Bible says were the first to see the child Jesus were “forced to live on the edges of society” and considered dirty, smelly foreigners, he said. “Everything about them generated mistrust. They were men and women to be kept at a distance, to be feared.”
“NEW SOCIAL IMAGINATION”
Wearing white vestments in the flower-bedecked church, Francis called for a “new social imagination ... in which none have to feel that there is no room for them on this earth.”
The 81-year-old pope, who was born of Italian immigrant stock in Argentina, has made defense of migrants a major plank of his papacy, often putting him at odds with politicians.
Austria’s new chancellor, Sebastian Kurz, has aligned himself with central European neighbors like Hungary and the Czech Republic in opposing German-backed proposals to distribute asylum seekers around EU member states.
In elections in Germany in September, the far-right and anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany (AfD) party made significant gains, with electors punishing Chancellor Angela Merkel for her open-door policy and pushing migration policy to the top of the agenda in talks to form a coalition government.
Italy’s anti-immigrant Northern League, whose leader Matteo Salvini often gives fiery speeches against migrants, is expected to make gains in national elections next year. A law that would give citizenship to children born in Italy to migrant parents is stalled in parliament.
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In his homily, Francis said, “Our docuмent of citizenship” comes from God, making respect of migrants an integral part of Christianity.
“This is the joy that we tonight are called to share, to celebrate and to proclaim. The joy with which God, in his infinite mercy, has embraced us pagans, sinners and foreigners, and demands that we do the same,” Francis said.
Francis also condemned human traffickers who make money off desperate migrants as the “Herods of today” with blood on their hands, a reference to the Biblical story of the king who ordered the killing of all newborn male children near Bethlehem because he feared Jesus would one day displace him.
More than 14,000 people have died trying to make the perilous crossing of the Mediterranean to Europe in the past four years.
On Christmas Day, Francis will deliver his twice-yearly “Urbi et Orbi” (To the City and to the World) blessing and message from the central balcony of St. Peter’s Basilica.
(In fourth paragraph, this story corrects to say Mary and Joseph, not Mary and Jesus.)
Reporting by Philip Pullella; Editing by Leslie Adler
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The Vatican Nativity scene featuring a naked man, a corpse, and no sheep or oxen is the artistic offering of an abbey which is the focus of Italian LGBT activists, it has emerged.
Enquiries by LifeSiteNews have revealed that the Abbey of Montevergine, which donated the innovative ‘Nativity of Mercy,’ houses the Marian image that has been adopted as patroness by LGBT activists in Italy. The abbey shrine is the annual destination of a sort of sacred and profane “ancestral gαy pride” pilgrimage which, according to one LGBT activist, in recent years has gained the “active, political participation of the LGBT community.”
An official of the Vatican’s Governorate has told LifeSiteNews that the abbey of Montevergine initially proposed the original idea for the ‘Nativity of Mercy.’ The Vatican discussed and developed a more detailed design with the abbey, then submitted final plans to the Secretary of State and Pope Francis for approval, which was duly granted.
“The presence of the Vatican Nativity Scene for us is a reason to be even happier this year,” Antonello Sannini, president of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ activist group Arcigαy Naples, told LifeSiteNews on Tuesday. “For the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ and transsɛҳuąƖ community in Naples, it is an important symbol of inclusion and integration.”
More here:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vaticans-sɛҳuąƖly-suggestive-nativity-has-troubling-ties-to-italys-lgbt-act
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Thanks for this update, 2VT, it helps explain a lot.
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You're welcome Neil...sure does, doesn't it?
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https://nypost.com/2017/12/25/topless-activist-tries-to-steal-nativity-baby-jesus-in-rome/ (https://nypost.com/2017/12/25/topless-activist-tries-to-steal-nativity-baby-jesus-in-rome/)
from the article:
The drama took place a two hours before Pope Francis delivered his Christmas tidings (https://nypost.com/2017/12/25/pope-francis-rebukes-trumps-jerusalem-decision/) to some 50,000 people in the square.
The woman was identified on FEMEN’s Web site (https://femen.org/femen-sextremist-was-arrested-by-the-police-of-vatican/) as Alisa Vinogradova.
The stunt occurred the morning after a group of FEMEN activists protested at the nativity with “#metoo” painted on their bare chests and “assaulted by the church” scrawled across their abdomens.
FEMEN, founded in Ukraine, says its mandate is “complete victory of patriarchy.”
“A child is not from a god, but from a woman! For a woman is God!” FEMEN’s Web site wrote in its coverage of Monday’s near-snatching.
Another FEMEN activist undertook a similar caper back in 2014 on Christmas Day — successfully grabbing the baby Jesus from the altar before she was detained.
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The Vatican is ocuppied by wretched fαɢɢօts.
It turns out that the whole Vatican Nativity scene was commissioned by the Sanctuary of Montevergine, a Benedictine monastery outside of Naples...
The Sanctuary of Montevergine has long been notoriously and blasphemously claimed as a mascot and meeting place for sodomites and transvestites.
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2017/12/19/toldya-vatican-nativity-made-in-sodomite-and-transvestite-shrine-clear-winking-signal-to-sex-perverts/
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Modernism, the synthesis of all heresies, can produce nothing but uggliness and repulsiveness. It is all around us.
We know that God is the epitome of beauty and order, though. This cannot come from God, but from the enemy.
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Modernism, the synthesis of all heresies, can produce nothing but uggliness and repulsiveness. It is all around us.
We know that God is the epitome of beauty and order, though. This cannot come from God, but from the enemy.
Amen.
Are you saying the Vatican and those who dwell there are no longer catholic/christian but pagan/demonic? The gates of hell have prevailed against the hierarchy of the church? Much like the ancient kings(shepherds) of Israel were mostly corrupt, doers of evil the popes(shepherds) are corrupt and do evil. Is the second coming nigh? Will our true Shepherd arrive soon to lead us to greener pastures? Because His 'church' here has no true shepherds and the sheep have been scattered for 50 years. Generations have been lost. Alas, babylon.
It has become a dwelling place of demons,
a haunt of every foul spirit,
a haunt of every foul and hateful bird...
...so shall her plagues come in a single day,
pestilence and mourning and famine,
and she shall be burned with fire;
for mighty is the Lord God who judges her...
... And the kings of the earth, who committed fornication and were wanton with her, will weep and wail over her when they see the smoke of her burning; 10 they will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say,
“Alas! alas! thou great city,
thou mighty city, Babylon!
In one hour has thy judgment come...
The Apocalypse of John
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Novus Ordo Watch has a very good page on this "scene."
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https://novusordowatch.org/2017/12/harrowing-vatican-nativity-scene/
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For faithful Catholics with "eyes to see", the warning signs from this blasphemous Nativity...
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We know what is coming to Rome, soon enough.
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Novus Ordo Watch has a very good page on this "scene."
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https://novusordowatch.org/2017/12/harrowing-vatican-nativity-scene/
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Good link Neil.
I thought "Novus Ordo Watch" made a very prudent and conscientious review:
The Frankie Horror Picture Show: A Look at the Vatican’s harrowing Nativity Scene (https://novusordowatch.org/2017/12/harrowing-vatican-nativity-scene/)
December 18, 2017
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Glad tidings of great joy look different…
The Frankie Horror Picture Show:
A Look at the Vatican’s harrowing Nativity Scene
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[UPDATE 26-DEC-17: Baby Jesus in St. Peter’s Square Nativity scene is nude, not wrapped in swaddling clothes (https://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2017/12/francis-knows-better-than-st-luke.html)]
[UPDATE 20-DEC-17: Vatican’s ‘sɛҳuąƖly suggestive’ nativity has troubling ties to Italy’s LGBT activists (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vaticans-sɛҳuąƖly-suggestive-nativity-has-troubling-ties-to-italys-lgbt-act)]
Repulsive, bizarre, frightening. These are adjectives one should not associate with the most beautiful event in history (together with Christ’s Passion and Resurrection), but the Vatican under “Pope” Francis entices people to do exactly that.
On December 7, Vatican City solemnly inaugurated its Christmas tree and Nativity scene at St. Peter’s Square. The video of the entire ceremony can be watched here:
The Nativity display does not, as one would expect, immediately draw one to contemplating the beautiful mystery of the Incarnation of God the Son. Rather, the first reaction it elicits from viewers is one of confusion, bewilderment, and disgust.
Let’s first look at some images of the set and then describe what we see there (click each picture for a larger view):
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The first thing that immediately catches one’s attention is that the scene is awfully and unnecessarily crowded. One’s eyes are distracted by as many as sixteen different figures, all of which compete for the viewer’s attention, with two more off to the side. Strangely enough, despite all the people, there is only a single shepherd who came to adore Christ, all the while the Three Magi (Wise Men) are already present, whereas their arrival is typically not celebrated until the Epiphany (Jan. 6).
Second, the statues do not look pleasant. All of the facial expressions are serious, grim, unhappy, or otherwise negative, at least indifferent. Even the little angels beside the crib have a look of suffering or despair on their countenances, and the large angel hovering above doesn’t look like he just announced good tidings of great joy, either (cf. Lk 2:10). The only shepherd included in the scene is playing the flute with a look of annoyance on his face. St. Joseph is depicted as absent-minded, and Our Lady looks rather masculine, staring at her Divine Son as though she was about to unleash fury on Him. Not a single statue appears to be joyful about the Birth of Christ, which is clearly not the main focus of this scene anyway. There is nothing edifying in this display, nothing that would inspire joy, love, adoration, or gratitude in souls.
Third, the background to the set is unusual as well. Our Lord was born in a stable, but what’s displayed there looks more like the ruins of a church. The star that hangs above it all has the appearance of a comet that is about to strike the earth, and the angel right below it might as well be one of the angels of the judgment (see Apoc 14). Come to think of it, perhaps this display is meant to portray a scenario from the Apocalypse rather than one from the Gospel of St. Luke.
Fourth, we notice the absence of the animals into whose manger the Christ Child was laid, and whom they warmed with their breath: “The ox knoweth his owner, and the ass his master’s crib: but Israel hath not known me, and my people hath not understood” (Is 1:3). There are no oxen and no donkeys in the Vatican display; neither are there any lambs the shepherds would have brought as gifts for the newborn Messiah. We recall that it was Benedict XVI who, in 2012, sowed the seeds of doubt (http://christorchaos.com/DoesThisManGiveAnyThoughtToHisParticularJudgment.html) regarding the presence of animals by the manger.
Fifth, by far the greatest distraction in this travesty of a Nativity scene is the depictions of the seven corporal works of mercy. While the corporal works of mercy are important, laudable, and necessary for salvation in a sense (cf. Mt 25:31-46), they have no place in a Christmas Nativity set. Their inclusion in the Vatican display is meant to distract from the Birth of the Savior, who came primarily to save us from our sins and from hell, not to improve our temporal condition (cf. Mt 1:21; Mk 14:7; Jn 6:59,64). In fact, the seven spiritual works of mercy are of even greater importance than the corporal works, yet curiously these are not displayed at all, which fits perfectly, however, with Francis’ excessive focus on the bodily and temporal over the spiritual and eternal. As a reminder, the spiritual works of mercy are:
[/font][/size][/color]- To instruct the ignorant;
- To counsel the doubtful;
- To admonish sinners;
- To bear wrongs patiently;
- To forgive offences willingly;
- To comfort the afflicted;
- To pray for the living and the dead.
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(Source: Catholic Encyclopedia, s.v. “Corporal and Spiritual Works of Mercy” (http://newadvent.org/cathen/10198d.htm))
Thus, once again God is being eclipsed by man. As far back as 1978, “Saint” John Paul II blasphemously referred to Christmas as “the feast of man” (https://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/messages/urbi/docuмents/hf_jp-ii_mes_19781225_urbi.html), and Francis is simply developing that idea further. In 1903, Pope St. Pius X warned that this “is the distinguishing mark of Antichrist, [that] man has with infinite temerity put himself in the place of God” (Encyclical E Supremi (http://www.papalencyclicals.net/pius10/p10supre.htm), n. 5).
The corporal works of mercy that are being depicted as part of the Vatican’s sacrilegious Nativity scene are: visiting the sick, feeding the hungry, giving drink to the thirsty, visiting the imprisoned, burying the dead, welcoming the stranger (traditionally: sheltering the homeless), and clothing the naked.
It is the rendition of the latter that has caused the biggest stir, and for good reason: As is clearly visible in the images posted above, the scene actually includes a life-size quasi-nude male. There are many ways that one could depict the work of clothing the naked in a modest fashion, but showing a virtually nude man with a muscular body is not one of them. More could be said about this obviously homoerotic element of the display, but for the sake of modesty, we won’t go there.
The portrayal of an imprisoned man being visited is also not exactly edifying, but it’s nothing compared to the horror scene of burying the dead. While they could have shown a man shoveling a grave or someone praying before a tombstone, instead they chose to present a dead body on a bier, covered with a cloth but with one arm, entirely white, hanging down for maximum shock value. The corpse is being shoved into what is probably supposed to be a tomb but might as well be a cremation furnace. Nothing says Christmas joy quite like such a sight!
But enough already of this unpleasant, harrowing spectacle!
All in all, we may say that this “Nativity” display looks more like a scene from hell, and that is no accident. Always keep that in mind: This is all deliberate. Things like this do not just happen; they require official approval and are planned long in advance, and every detail is thought through and prepared carefully. The Vatican authorities could have made this Nativity scene as beautiful as the world knows how, and yet this is what they chose to present. Think about that.
The conclusion is inescapable: The ugliness, the repulsiveness, the twistedness of it all, is by design. These wicked Vatican Modernists are simply seeking as much as possible to distract from the Birth of Christ and render it repulsive to people, especially to children. Would you let your sweet little ones look at, much less approach, this travesty of a Nativity scene? What child would not be frightened and disturbed? As their impressionable little minds and vulnerable, tender souls draw near to the Christ Child to love, thank, and adore Him, they’re being repelled by all these grim-looking, frightening characters, not excluding nudity — and the poor children will associate this with Christmas going forward. One shudders to imagine what the Baby Jesus will look like once He is unveiled.
Our Blessed Lord had a clear message for those who turn the little ones away from Him, or who scandalize them:
[/font][/size][/color]But Jesus, calling them together, said: Suffer children to come to me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. (Lk 18:16)
And whosoever shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me; it were better for him that a millstone were hanged around his neck, and he were cast into the sea. (Mk 9:41)
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As we have said many times on this web site, Francis preaches the “gospel of man” (https://novusordowatch.org/2015/05/francis-gospel-of-man/), a gospel that reduces the purpose of the Incarnation of Jesus Christ to nothing more than God wanting to share our misery for the sake of solidarity. But God did not become man so that we would visit the sick and feed the hungry. If that’s what it’s ultimately all about — and that’s exactly what Francis continually insinuates (https://novusordowatch.org/2017/12/francis-rohingya-muslims-presence-of-god/) — then there is no need for religion, dogma, penance, sacraments, making converts, or martyrdom. Nor would the world need a Pope.
That is the ultimate conclusion that they will all eventually draw, and it is fully intended, for the anti-Christian powers of the world (first and foremost among which is the Vatican II Sect) have sought the destruction of Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church from the very beginning (cf. Mt 2:16; Lk 22:2; Acts 9:1; 2 Thess 2:7). That the Mystery of Iniquity will ultimately fail in this attempt, is guaranteed by God Himself (cf. Mt 16:18; 2 Thess 2:8), but until our Lord’s final victory over the powers of darkness, we must patiently endure this Mystical Passion of the Church (https://novusordowatch.org/2017/02/papacy-passion-of-church-fatima-conference-2016/), during which, just as with our Lord’s own Passion, all will seem hopeless for a short while, only to be turned into God’s decisive and glorious victory at the appointed time (cf. Lk 24:25-26).
The Vatican’s blasphemous Nativity set is but the latest example of ugly and sinister “art” that has been floating around the Vatican since at least the days of “Pope” Paul VI (1963-78) (https://novusordowatch.org/paul-vi/). Whether it be the “Cosmic Embrace” (https://novusordowatch.org/wp-content/uploads/francis-vatican-cosmic-embrace.jpg) in the Apostolic Palace or the satanic “Resurrection” sculpture (https://novusordowatch.org/wp-content/uploads/resurrection-fazzini-paul6-audience-hall.jpg) in the Audience Hall dedicated to Paul VI, the Novus Ordo Sect loves everything that is ugly. The recent Vatican Christmas concert (https://www.facebook.com/pg/RomeReportsENG/photos/?tab=album&album_id=10156237681379267) was no exception. If art is the mirror of the soul, then we know what’s going on in these souls, and it’s not pretty.
“Let the dead bury their dead” (Lk 9:60); but you, dear reader, you celebrate the true and traditional Roman Catholic Christmas! Let your children approach the manger without fear and without scandal, so they too may celebrate the Birth of Jesus Christ, the Savior — truly “good tidings of great joy” (Lk 2:10)!
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But, Novus Ordo Watch forgot to mention, it was a judaic, "6-sided" star over the manger.
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But, Novus Ordo Watch forgot to mention, it was a judaic, "6-sided" star over the manger.
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Good call, Incredulous! The 6-sided star looked like 7 sides to me, but the top point is missing and replaced by a tail, implying what, a comet? A falling star?
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This seems to indicate the 12th chapter of St. John's Apocalypse:
[4] (http://www.drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=73&ch=12&l=4-#x) And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son. [5] (http://www.drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=73&ch=12&l=5-#x) And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with an iron rod: and her son was taken up to God, and to his throne.
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[1] "A woman": The church of God. It may also, by allusion, be applied to our blessed Lady. The church is clothed with the sun, that is, with Christ: she hath the moon, that is, the changeable things of the world, under her feet: and the twelve stars with which she is crowned, are the twelve apostles: she is in labour and pain, whilst she brings forth her children, and Christ in them, in the midst of afflictions and persecutions.
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Fr. Gruner taught that the third of the stars falling from heaven has been interpreted by some exegetes as a third of the Church's priests who fall from their vocation. So now they've got their own monument hanging over the heads of the Holy Family in the manger scene, a 6-sided falling star right in front of the Egyptian obelisk in the center of Bernini's square.
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The obelisk
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ANNO MDLXXXVI = year 1586