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Poor Clare's kicked out of their convent in Italy
« on: February 26, 2023, 10:39:12 AM »
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    ‘Rebel nuns’ of the Amalfi Coast expelled from convent, religious life
    By Crux Staff
    Feb 7, 2023
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    The 13th century Convent of St. Clare in Ravello, on Italy’s Amalfi Coast. (Credit: Screen capture.)

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    ROME – Two members of the Urbanist Poor Clare Sisters of Italy, who became known as the “rebel nuns of Ravello” for their refusal to abandon their 13th century convent slated for closure, have been dismissed by the Vatican from religious life.

    Sisters Massimiliana Panza, an Italian, and Sister Angela Maria Punnacka, an Indian, left the Convent of St. Clare in Ravello, overlooking Italy’s prized Amalfi Coast Feb. 3. Temporarily remaining in the convent is Sister Maria Cristina Fiore, who turned 97 on Jan. 13 and who’s lived in the convent since 1955. She’s now under the care of a new community of sisters, asked to look after her until a decision about her residence is made.

    The three sisters had been the only ones remaining in the convent, which, a half-century ago, was home to 42 Poor Clare nuns, as well as a primary school.

    In 2021, the Vatican’s Dicastery for Consecrated Life ordered the convent closed, with the support of the Urbanist Poor Clare Sisters of Italy,  due to the declining numbers. A Franciscan priest from the Sanctuary of St. Anthony of Padua was appointed to oversee the closure, including the disposition of the property.

    The convent’s complex includes a church, a residence for the sisters, a guesthouse, a set of ruins and a vast open area overlooking the Tyrrhenian Sea, in a posh stretch of coastline where Gore Vidal once owned a villa. As a result of donations to the sisters over the years, the convent also owns a hotel and three other local businesses which generate roughly $200,000 a year in profits.

    All told, the value of all the property belonging to the convent is estimated at somewhere between $50 and $60 million.

    In a last-ditch effort to keep the convent open, Panza and Punnacka had proposed over the summer signing over ownership of the property directly to the Vatican, to be used for papal charities, while the sisters would be allowed to remain.

    In effect, the Vatican said “yes” to receiving the property but “no” to the sisters staying on, ordering that each of the three relocate to three different convents in various regions of Italy. Panza and Punnacka refused, leading to the decree of expulsion from religious life.

    Local media reports that when the closure of the convent was announced in 2021, rumors circulated of plans to build a luxury hotel complex on the site. The city council of Ravello came out in opposition to the closure, citing the historical and cultural significance of the convent.

    During the Second World War, for instance, King Victor Emmanuel III, Queen Helen and their son Prince Humbert were frequent visitors to the convent, where they supported the rebuilding of a kindergarten and also the production of clothing and other basic supplies for the poor of the city.

    In the wake of the expulsion of the two sisters from the convent and from religious life, an ex-mayor of Ravello named Paolo Imperato, who’s also the head of a cultural association, has vowed to continue the fight “to restore truth, justice and dignity to the virtuous ‘disobedience’ of the sisters.”

    “We’ll act without ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’ to vindicate the authenticity of the true church, which cannot tolerate purges behind the false mask of non-alignment with the orders of superiors – especially if those orders are questionable on a canonical level and reprehensible on an ethical level, to the point of sounding like an anti-synodal witness,” Imperato said.

    Panza addressed a small crowd of locals who gathered to see her and Punnacka off last Friday.

    “Thanks to all of you who welcomed and supported us to the extent possible,” she said. “In reality, we haven’t been transferred but dismissed from the order. As soon as made the donation to the pope, our transfer was decided. We didn’t want to take anything, we were born as poor Franciscans and we want to die that way, but we had every canonical right to see this donation through its conclusion.”

    “Our superiors thought differently and we didn’t have the chance to do anything about the act of dismissal. That’s the truth. We’ve done our part, now you must pray for the convent,” Panza said.

    According to news reports, Panza and Punnacka are currently staying with Panza’s family near Naples while contemplating their next move.

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    Re: Poor Clare's kicked out of their convent in Italy
    « Reply #1 on: February 26, 2023, 01:18:50 PM »
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  • Real estate. Note the photo in that linked article. Check out the hilltop seaside view, from one of the largest properties in a region of Italy long known, even back to the Roman Empire, for vacation villas.

    Similarly, another convent of Benedictine sisters in Tuscany (yes, Tuscany, as in dolce far niente weekends and summers) is under threat due to their enterprising yet admittedly unorthodox mother superior... or maybe actually for some other unacknowledged reason... 

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    The drama centers on the “Mary Temple of the Holy Spirit” convent in Pienza in the southern part of Tuscany, nestled on a hill with a breathtaking view of the nearby Val d’Orcia, a lush green valley bisected by the Orcia River. ...

    ... Under Diletta’s leadership, the sisters began a series of ventures, some intended to promote new vocations – such as taking to Facebook to invite young Italian women between the ages of 18 and 38 to spend five days with the sisters in the convent, “sharing our daily life, praying and working with us, to meet Christ and to discover the meaning of your life.”

    Other undertakings were commercial, intended to help the convent become self-sustaining. They included the sale of homemade candies and votive candles in an open-air market, and also transforming unused wings of the convent into a sort of B&B, promoted on Facebook under the slogan, “It’s small but it’s got all the comforts … what do you think?” According to media accounts, this essentially unlicensed commercial activity got the sisters into hot water with local authorities, who complained to the Diocese of Montepulciano-Chiusi-Pienza....

    ... The statement also noted, however, that as of Sunday, Feb. 19, the Vatican orders had not yet been implemented by the sisters. In fact, local media reports suggest that the sisters have suspended their communications on social media, a padlock has been placed on the entrance to the convent and all its phone lines have been disconnected.
    Forti released her own statement on Feb. 20, accusing the diocese of spreading “false and distorted news” and claiming that the Vatican decrees are legally problematic,
    “This monastic community has been accused of disobedience and resistance to the dispositions of superiors, while it has simply refused to implement a provision with gross anomalies and conspicuous issues of a juridical nature, such as to call into question its validity and efficacy,” the statement said.
    “For this reason, the convent has deemed it necessary to make use of the protections and guarantees of canon law in the competent offices, considering the communication forwarded to it to lack the requisites that would make it effective,” Forti said.

    ... While there has not been any formal threat of returning the sisters to the lay state, media reports suggest that officials in the diocese are becoming increasingly frustrated and some have suggested privately that the community may need to be dissolved.

    With all that's been happening since Cor Orans, why is that last sentence not surprising?
    Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things pass away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things. He who has God finds he lacks nothing; God alone suffices. - St. Teresa of Jesus


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    Re: Poor Clare's kicked out of their convent in Italy
    « Reply #2 on: February 27, 2023, 06:05:51 AM »
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  • Real estate. Note the photo in that linked article. Check out the hilltop seaside view, from one of the largest properties in a region of Italy long known, even back to the Roman Empire, for vacation villas.

    Similarly, another convent of Benedictine sisters in Tuscany (yes, Tuscany, as in dolce far niente weekends and summers) is under threat due to their enterprising yet admittedly unorthodox mother superior... or maybe actually for some other unacknowledged reason...

    With all that's been happening since Cor Orans, why is that last sentence not surprising?
    Wow....  I am SO out of the loop...  I am just hearing about Cor Orans for the first time.  I looked up what it meant yesterday.  🤦

    So terrible....but not surprising.... May God spare us! :pray:

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    Re: Poor Clare's kicked out of their convent in Italy
    « Reply #3 on: February 27, 2023, 06:22:48 AM »
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  • Sounds like they could support themselves:
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    As a result of donations to the sisters over the years, the convent also owns a hotel and three other local businesses which generate roughly $200,000 a year in profits.

    All told, the value of all the property belonging to the convent is estimated at somewhere between $50 and $60 million.

    But the NO could use the money to pay off lawsuits over pedophile sodomite priests, so they can sell the poperty to someone who will turn the property into some resort that hosts orgies.

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    Re: Poor Clare's kicked out of their convent in Italy
    « Reply #4 on: March 13, 2023, 01:30:44 PM »
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  • Saint Clare would not be pleased:

    As I, together with my sisters, have ever been solicitous to safeguard the holy poverty which we have promised the Lord God and Blessed Francis, so too, the abbesses who shall succeed me in office and all the sisters are bound inviolably to observe it to the end, that is, by not receiving of having possession or ownership either themselves or through an intermediary, or even anything that might reasonably be called ownership, except as much land as necessity requires for the integrity and proper seclusion of the monastery, and this land may not be cultivated except as a garden for the needs of the sisters. 

    The Rule of Saint Clare, Chapter 6
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    There are no disappointments to those whose wills are buried in the will of God.
    (Fr. Frederick Faber, Bethlehem)