On August 1, 1976 in Philadelphia, [soon-to-become] Pope John Paul II said, "We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has ever experienced. I do not think that the wide circle of the American Society, or the whole wide circle of the Christian Community realize this fully. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-church, between the gospel and the anti-gospel, between Christ and the antichrist. The confrontation lies within the plans of Divine Providence. It is, therefore, in God's Plan, and it must be a trial which the Church must take up, and face courageously.".
After he was elected pope, John Paul II briefly reiterated this point in 1981, mentioning also that it pertains to the message of Fatima. Bergoglio has declared his intention to reform the Church (and is initiating those reforms) in such a manner that would transform the Church into the anti-church foretold in the secret of Fatima and by Pope Leo XIII..
.My husband and I also got such a letter. We most likely shredded it as we are now done with those people. Several of my Catholic friends suspect that Fr. Gruner was killed with one of those KGB-CIA assassination pens that can cause a massive heart attack. Else why was there almost a two week delay in announcing his death? And why were Fr. Gruner's wishes mentioned by Fr. Kramer not heeded? Someone obviously did not want Fr. Gruner to go Sede.
Does anyone know who James and Theresa are?
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(http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2017/08/fatima-center-splits-what-are.html)http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2017/08/fatima-center-splits-what-are.html
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The second priest of the three is the same Fr. Albert to whom Fr. Kramer refers in the OP.
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My husband and I also got such a letter. We most likely shredded it as we are now done with those people. Several of my Catholic friends suspect that Fr. Gruner was killed with one of those KGB-CIA assassination pens that can cause a massive heart attack. Else why was there almost a two week delay in announcing his death? And why were Fr. Gruner's wishes mentioned by Fr. Kramer not heeded? Someone obviously did not want Fr. Gruner to go Sede..
Oh, there is so much to say. Father Gruner had a HUGE regard for Father Kramer, they were best of friends as well. Father Gruner asked Father Kramer to write his thesis regarding Francis as being anti-pope, and Benedict being Pope. In the summer of 2014, Fr. Gruner indicated to me that he did NOT believe that Francis was pope. Around that time, he stopped by on another occasion, where he was clearly upset, to tell me that he had been told that a mason was working closely with him.He had been told that a mason was working closely with him.
In 2015, he “passed”
I think I was clear.
Listen, no one is obligated to believe this obviously. By the fires of hell, I say to God, this is true.Let your YES, be yes. There is no need to swear by the fires of hell.
Servants of Jesus and Mary out of NY are keeping things going. Good people. Actually where Father Gruner started out as far as an apostolate.Will the Servants of Jesus and Mary be able to sustain the apostolate?
Several of my Catholic friends suspect that Fr. Gruner was killed with one of those KGB-CIA assassination pens that can cause a massive heart attack. Else why was there almost a two week delay in announcing his death? And why were Fr. Gruner's wishes mentioned by Fr. Kramer not heeded? Someone obviously did not want Fr. Gruner to go Sede.
the elephant stinking up the place?It was the announcement of Father Gruner's death in a very untimely manner that became the elephant in the room.
It was the announcement of Father Gruner's death in a very untimely manner that became the elephant in the room.
And it stunk mightily.
"Marcel Francois Lefebvre ... His father, an official in a textile company, was a monarchist and a devout Catholic who said daily prayers in Latin. Of his seven brothers and sisters, four others became priests or nuns.Hey, this is off topic. But I will acquiesce to your demands. Except for this very politically incorrect paragraph, which is not surprising for this rag fake-news newspaper, the rest of the obituary of Marcel Francois Lefebvre seems very informative.
He attended a seminary in Rome that was headed by a sympathizer with Action Francaise, a far-right anti-Semitic and anti-democratic movement that was condemned by Pope Pius XI. He obtained doctorates in theology and philosophy before being ordained in 1929."
f/ here (emph. DZ P) (http://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/26/obituaries/archbishop-lefebvre-85-dies-traditionalist-defied-the-vatican.html?mcubz=3)
Please feel free to vet the source, I encourage you.
Hey, this is off topic. But I will acquiesce to your demands. Except for this very political paragraph, which is not surprising for this rag newspaper, the rest of the obituary of Marcel Francois Lefebvre seems very informative.
"... demands..."Yes, that fake news publication is quite dishonest.
Dishonest.
I really tried.
Well, Father rolled into Fort Erie in a beat up old van, no supporters, and a horrible albeit small allegiance to the Montreal Canadiens.( I’m a Toronto fan)He did much good.
How does one post pictures?
Not seeing this. Can you post a pic of this?i think it’ll be worth itSee attached.
I have several pictures of Father Gruner’s grave where neither his family nor The Fatima Center has put a simple stone on his grave. Over 2 years.
Have an email?(http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/latest/latest_256_HMIIF.jpg)
I have several pictures of Father Gruner’s grave where neither his family nor The Fatima Center has put a simple stone on his grave. Over 2 years.If they are pics on your computer, Find (Ctrl/Cmd F) "Attachments and other options (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?action=post;quote=569864;topic=46091.15)" from the text box that you wish to add it as an attachment. That's how I sent you the prior image and file.
:cowboy:you can also edit for a limited time finding "modify" next to the quote button.
If you got it, just use it, no.?
If you got it, just use it, no.?:applause: (for your accomplishment, not because someone is dead etc.)
Father was one of my best friends. I was at his funeral. He was at my wedding.
The Consecration of Russia is coming soon.
( was booted from the remnant)
Father was one of my best friends. I was at his funeral. He was at my wedding.I met Fr. Gruner once when he came to Los Angeles. That was shortly after our wedding.
The Consecration of Russia is coming soon.
( was booted from the remnant)
I met Fr. Gruner once when he came to Los Angeles. That was shortly after our wedding.I was with him at Newport Beach at a conference. And who shows up in the lobby? Wayne Freaking Gretzky. As Canadians, we were both impressed. Father charged on however.
I did not even try to register at the remnant. Not worth it.
We are in dire times. Most Holy Theotokos save us.
Father Albert O.P..
Is working for the SSPX in British Columbia ,
He will be stationed at Vernon chapel. Our lady Queen of Peace. :o
Does the Father Patrick Perez who is part of the Fatima Center, is he the same priest who has a parish and school in Southern California?Yes, he is in SoCal: http://www.ourladyhelpofchristians.us/ (http://www.ourladyhelpofchristians.us/)
Is he connected with SSPX?
Yes, he is in SoCal: http://www.ourladyhelpofchristians.us/ (http://www.ourladyhelpofchristians.us/)Isn't Father Patrick Perez also The Monsignor Patrick Perez of the Fatima Center?
No, he is not connected with the SSPX, other than he may use their bishops for confirmation.
They don't want the truth.Should get an upgrade from your carrier for gratis, no?
They want to water down faith to appeal to those who have been formed by communists. money talks.
I just posted to another topic and post disappeared. I'm still using iPhone 4s
Should get an upgrade from your carrier for gratis, no?:jumping2:
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Didn't see this before.....and Salza the Mason writing at the remnant
.It means the SSPX has taken control of the Fatima Center and... Catholic Family News.
Does this mean the SSPX is going to appropriate all the pallets of Crusaders and other materials that are stockpiled in the warehouse in Fort Erie?
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