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Offline DZ PLEASE

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Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2017, 12:37:10 AM »
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  • It was the announcement of Father Gruner's death in a very untimely manner that became the elephant in the room.

    And it stunk mightily.

    "Marcel Francois Lefebvre ... His father, an official in a textile company, was a monarchist and a devout Catholic who said daily prayers in Latin. Of his seven brothers and sisters, four others became priests or nuns.
    He attended a seminary in Rome that was headed by a sympathizer with Action Francaise, a far-right anti-Semitic and anti-democratic movement that was condemned by Pope Pius XI. He obtained doctorates in theology and philosophy before being ordained in 1929."

    f/ here (emph. DZ P) 

    Please feel free to vet the source, I encourage you.
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #16 on: September 30, 2017, 12:46:19 AM »
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  • "Marcel Francois Lefebvre ... His father, an official in a textile company, was a monarchist and a devout Catholic who said daily prayers in Latin. Of his seven brothers and sisters, four others became priests or nuns.
    He attended a seminary in Rome that was headed by a sympathizer with Action Francaise, a far-right anti-Semitic and anti-democratic movement that was condemned by Pope Pius XI. He obtained doctorates in theology and philosophy before being ordained in 1929."

    f/ here (emph. DZ P)

    Please feel free to vet the source, I encourage you.
    Hey, this is off topic. But I will acquiesce to your demands. Except for this very politically incorrect paragraph, which is not surprising for this rag fake-news newspaper, the rest of the obituary of Marcel Francois Lefebvre seems very informative.
    Lord have mercy.


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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #17 on: September 30, 2017, 12:48:04 AM »
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  • Hey, this is off topic. But I will acquiesce to your demands. Except for this very political paragraph, which is not surprising for this rag newspaper, the rest of the obituary of Marcel Francois Lefebvre seems very informative.

    "... demands..."

    Dishonest.

    I really tried.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #18 on: September 30, 2017, 12:49:39 AM »
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  • "... demands..."

    Dishonest.

    I really tried.
    Yes, that fake news publication is quite dishonest.
    Note, that I edited my comments. My husband was distracting me as I typed. O vey.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #19 on: September 30, 2017, 12:51:53 AM »
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  • They just can't stop with the lying and manipulation.

    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #20 on: September 30, 2017, 12:52:41 AM »
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  • Well, Father rolled into Fort Erie in a beat up old van, no supporters, and a horrible albeit small allegiance to the Montreal Canadiens.( I’m a Toronto fan)

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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #21 on: September 30, 2017, 12:56:04 AM »
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  • Well, Father rolled into Fort Erie in a beat up old van, no supporters, and a horrible albeit small allegiance to the Montreal Canadiens.( I’m a Toronto fan)
    He did much good.
    May his memory be eternal.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #22 on: September 30, 2017, 12:57:58 AM »
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  • How does one post pictures?


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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #23 on: September 30, 2017, 12:59:34 AM »
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  • How does one post pictures?

    The second, longest gray bar above the text entry box. You'll see a little "Polaroid" looking button, seventh f/the left.
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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #24 on: September 30, 2017, 01:04:18 AM »
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  • Not seeing this. Can you post a pic of this?i think it’ll be worth it 

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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #25 on: September 30, 2017, 01:10:47 AM »
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  • Not seeing this. Can you post a pic of this?i think it’ll be worth it
    See attached.
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #26 on: September 30, 2017, 01:16:42 AM »
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  • I have several pictures of Father Gruner’s grave where neither his family nor The Fatima Center has put a simple stone on his grave. Over 2 years.



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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #27 on: September 30, 2017, 01:18:20 AM »
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  • I have several pictures of Father Gruner’s grave where neither his family nor The Fatima Center has put a simple stone on his grave. Over 2 years.
    Lord have mercy.

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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #28 on: September 30, 2017, 01:31:57 AM »
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    Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
    « Reply #29 on: September 30, 2017, 01:33:41 AM »
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