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Author Topic: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center  (Read 13932 times)

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Offline Maria Regina

Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2017, 12:08:01 AM »
Quote from: Christopher67 on September 30, 2017, 12:06:14 AM
Listen, no one is obligated to believe this obviously. By the fires of hell, I say to God, this is true.
Let your YES, be yes. There is no need to swear by the fires of hell.

Many of my Catholic friends already suspect that Father Gruner was killed by a close associate.

Now the loose strings are becoming obvious by the dismantling of Father Gruner's work.
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Offline Christopher67

Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2017, 12:21:08 AM »
Servants of Jesus and Mary out of NY are keeping things going. Good people. Actually where Father Gruner started out as far as an apostolate. 
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Offline Maria Regina

Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2017, 12:25:14 AM »
Quote from: Christopher67 on September 30, 2017, 12:21:08 AM
Servants of Jesus and Mary out of NY are keeping things going. Good people. Actually where Father Gruner started out as far as an apostolate.
Will the Servants of Jesus and Mary be able to sustain the apostolate?
This whole situation with the Fatima Center is sad.
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Offline DZ PLEASE

Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2017, 12:29:06 AM »
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Several of my Catholic friends suspect that Fr. Gruner was killed with one of those KGB-CIA assassination pens that can cause a massive heart attack. Else why was there almost a two week delay in announcing his death? And why were Fr. Gruner's wishes mentioned by Fr. Kramer not heeded? Someone obviously did not want Fr. Gruner to go Sede.

How is it that someone can find something like THIS credible, and not see the elephant stinking up the place? "They don't have time."

We got far better than that deserved.
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Offline Maria Regina

Re: Update: Fr. Kramer's explains why he was cut off from the Fatima Center
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2017, 12:31:47 AM »
Quote from: DZ PLEASE on September 30, 2017, 12:29:06 AM
the elephant stinking up the place?
It was the announcement of Father Gruner's death in a very untimely manner that became the elephant in the room.

And it stunk mightily.
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