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Author Topic: Universal Traditional Catholic Principles, the FSSP, and Sedevacantism  (Read 4566 times)

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Offline Ladislaus

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Is one Resistance Mass really enough of a sample size?  I mean, every once in a while a priest will address the crisis in the Church from the pulpit.  That's always been true.

NOW ... if you had attended for a longer stretch and found out that every single sermon for two months straight was about the crisis, then I might take this as a legitimate complaint.  You concluded from "on[sic] resistance mass" (presumably you meant "one") that "all [they] preach about is Church politics".  Really?

Now if you got bad vibes from someone whose name rhymes with "diablo" ... that would be understandable.  I could see why you'd never go back.

1. WHAT point? Who made that point? Maybe someone came in to the thread and said this, but I certainly didn't.
Maybe I misunderstood you.  I was talking about “Leave the Conciliar Church and Novus Ordo behind completely, regardless of having a Trad option lined up for Mass.”

Of course I’m all about never attending the Novus Ordo, another for of satanic mass in my opinion.  But what about people who have a trad option lined up?


Who was the priest?
Did his last name rhyme with "Pfeiffer"?
It more rhymed with Duke O

Offline Matthew

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Maybe I misunderstood you.  I was talking about “Leave the Conciliar Church and Novus Ordo behind completely, regardless of having a Trad option lined up for Mass.”

Of course I’m all about never attending the Novus Ordo, another for of satanic mass in my opinion.  But what about people who have a trad option lined up?

You most certainly misunderstood me.

If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people who put words in my mouth and/or jump to conclusions. Why not just ask me?

If I believed that the Novus Ordo (or any other group) was invalid, believe me, I wouldn't be shy. I'd come right out and say it! I'm part Irish and as far as my personality goes, I'm even more Irish. My culture is "tell it like it is" and being down to earth. No nonsense.

Trads leave behind the Novus Ordo because it's dangerous to the Faith. That's enough reason. We Trads collectively disagree on how we got here, how to fix it, the status of the Pope, etc. but that's all beside the point. But we all agree on this: the Novus Ordo is poison for the Faith. It must be left behind by ALL who are awake and will heed good advice!

Better to stay at home alone for 10+ years than to participate in the Novus Ordo abomination. At least your Faith won't be under assault every Sunday if you stay home...

Trad options for Mass are a completely different story.



2. And therefore the Second Principle could be: If the Pope wants to grant the Bishops and Priests of the Society Ordinary Jurisdiction and Habitual Authority over the Faithful who are their Subjects, then this is the correction of an injustice; something good and not evil.



No it is not a "correction of injustice" unless the Pope were to admit that the SSPX always had regular jurisdiction since its founding, but was invalidly removed back in the 1970's. For example, what is need is for the Vatican Officials is to publicly admit that all previous SSPX were valid. Same with confessions and the excommunications, they authorities. Otherwise it is not a correction of injustice, but a compromise of "let's not say who was right or wrong, forget the past, let's just play nice from now on"