Ambrose, I think Nishant's quotations do not have anything to do with 'peaceful' acceptance, non-turmoil in a papacy, willingness of Catholics to adhere to a pope's teaching etc. It simply speaks of [/b]mere acceptance. That is, Catholics universally accept a person to be the Pope.
No, they don't, and haven't, otherwise these discussions would not be taking place.
Well said, Tele. Well said!
There is an "elephant in the parlour" in this discussion. We have the dangerous falsehood of (to quote the Maritainist heretic Charles Journet) "the peaceful acceptance of the universal Church" of V2 and the Novus Ordo apostasy. That is false history and something that has never happened.
This claim of a peaceful consensus in support of the Novus Ordo is something that never occurred in any real time Catholic history. It took two world wars and the massive violent intervention of Khruschev's K.G.B. (with collaboration by the C.I.A and M-16 Secret Police forces) to brutally bludgeon the Catholics into submission to the Novus Ordo apostasy and that does not fit any description of an alleged "peaceful acceptance" of anything by the Catholics.
There were savage persecutions of Catholics (such as Padre Pio) under John XXIII while Paul VI persecuted the Catholic bishops mercilessly. Again, that does not in any way fit the Neo-Liberal's fantasy world of a "peaceful acceptance" among Catholics of V2 and the Novus Ordo or its General Apostasy against the faith.
This Modernist false version of history also presumes that our present time is one of a general peaceful acceptance by Catholics of the status quo. Again, false! For example, at present there is a most violent Reign of Terror throughout Europe and South America against the Catholics. In the U.S the small Catholic minority is much too terrified and intimidated to present the existing Marxist authorities with much need to conduct a Reign of Terror, but even here the savage persecution of non-Zionist dissenters is not far to seek. (For example, not even a famous Jew dissenter like Norman Finkelstein can stay in a rental apartment in New York to keep a roof over his head. That indicates persecution on the grand scale.)
There is no "peaceful acceptance" of the Novus Ordo!! None whatsoever. Brothers Roscoe and Diego are at least on the right path concerning this. Cardinal Siri and the Patriarch of Venice fought tooth and nail against the apostasy of Anti-pope Paul VI and finally defeated Paul VI when the Patriarch of Venice became Pope John Paul I in 1978. The fact that the Modernists had to murder Pope John Paul I so quickly to prevent the Restoration of the Church from happening then is an indication of how strong the Resistance against the Modernists of V2 was among Catholics throughout the 60s and 70s.
The reason so few publicly opposed V2 was the use of terror methods like assassinations, widespread house-arrests, economic ostracism, bribery, blackmail and other such violent techniques on a massive scale to prevent Catholics from going public against V2 and Paul VI. Men like Cardinal Siri and Pope John Paul I were not cowards but fought against the Modernists as much as the vicious persecutions of those days would let them.
Today Catholics are being subjected to savage persecutions throughout the Western World, especially in Europe and South America. Most actual non-apostate American Catholics are frightened to death of the Jewish psychopaths and their Modernist underlings. This is emphatically not "the peaceful acceptance of the universal Church" that only exists in some Catholic's (or perhaps Neo-Catholic's) lively imaginations.
For the timid souls among us the relevant quote must be:
"If we let him go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and the Romans will come and destroy both our temple and our nation." (John 11:48)
But, as we know, the Romans always come anyway! The hypocrites and cowards are wrong because God is not mocked and in the end the "angels" of His vengeance always "come and destroy" His enemies, usually with devastating effect. We can not hide from God and it is always best not even to try such a foolish thing.
In truth it is always much safer to be with Him than against Him. We should forget about the Novus Ordo. It is not long for this world.