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Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2022, 05:43:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 02, 2022, 04:32:23 PM
    Such a consecration would likely have the effect (were Berogoglio actually a pope) of converting Russia (including Putin) and then having the Russians take all of Europe, including Ukraine, and convert them away from their paganism.  Putin has already denounced the Satanism and pedophilia and "contrary to nature" transgenderism of the West.  While these people are hoping that the consecration brings victory to the West, are they hoping that their freedom (for perversion) will be strengthened by this consecration?  Hardly.  Their "democracies" and "freedoms" would be destroyed by a genuine consecration to Our Lady.
    Russia has a colossal abortion rate, HIV is rampant and the portion who practice their schismatic religion is tiny, fewer than the rapidly growing minority of Moslems (which grows every faster as the native Tatars have a high birth rate, but white Russians have been departing at a very rate, while Central Asian Moslems arrive in great numbers). Russia itself needs the consecration too, whatever rhetoric comes from Putin.

    Francis himself has shown himself a supporter of the culture of perversity in the West, repeating receiving troons (these are usually lesbian fetishists who are a menace to women, sodomites and atheists, and the less said about his direct support for pederasts like Grassi or Inzoli the better (it is not fit for decent ears and Globohomo doesn't care) the better. Francis won't consecrate anything. He can talk out of both sides of the mouth, but he would never take such a stance against sin (for him all are saved).
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #16 on: March 02, 2022, 05:54:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Prayerful on March 02, 2022, 05:43:22 PM
    Russia has a colossal abortion rate, HIV is rampant and the portion who practice their schismatic religion is tiny, ...

    That's beside the point.  Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary will convert the country, and then Russia will bring about the conversion of the rest of the world.  So Western Globohomo would have another thing coming if they think, as these "Catholic" bishops do, that Our Lady will prop up their perverse anti-Christian "democracies" (aka Jєωιѕн plutocracies / kleptocracies ).
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #17 on: March 02, 2022, 05:56:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jaycie on March 02, 2022, 05:25:00 PM
    I also think Alois Irlmaier was genuine. He was a poor man all his life but never accepted money for using his  'gifts' to help people and he was a devout Catholic. There was a book written about him, his life story, but it was in German but never translated into English  unfortunately.

    I like Irlmaier because he was a very simple and humble man.  His prophetic gift started with a vision of Our Blessed Mother.  Our Lady always appear to children or else childlike individuals who are simple.
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #18 on: March 02, 2022, 06:00:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Prayerful on March 02, 2022, 05:43:22 PM
    Russia has a colossal abortion rate, .
    This is not Russia bad, Ukraine good.  Ukraine is a prime source for obtaining baby parts.

    As Dr. Lazaryev says, "The only thing which protects unborn life in Ukraine is the courage of pregnant women." Continuing his investigations, Dr. Lazaryev found that women were paid $200 to $300 — three month's salary — to carry their pregnancies to a very late stage and to deliver the babies alive in a kind of forced premature birth.

    https://www.physiciansforlife.org › stem-cells-abortion-baby-parts-a-the-ukraine

    ''In late 2006, I heard about Vadym Lazaryev and Vladymyr Ischenko, two Ukrainian medical doctors who set up a small pro-life group that finally pierced the shroud of secrecy around the ghastly activities in Eastern Europe for the first time in the mid-1990s. After numerous death threats and then an actual attempt to murder them, the two doctors flew to Shannon, Ireland,
     and requested asylum.
    Father Tom Euteneuer, President of Human Life International, sent me to Ireland to interview Drs. Lazaryev and Ischenko. Dr. Ischenko was reluctant to testify because he feared retaliation against his family in Ukraine…
    While practicing medical oncology in Donetsk, Dr. Lazaryev began to wonder why doctors tell almost all pregnant women in Ukraine that there is a very high probability that their preborn children have serious birth defects. His own wife Elena was advised to have an abortion on the grounds that her preborn son would have severe birth defects — which, of course, he did not.
     Dr. Lazaryev’s own mother had thirteen pregnancies, eleven of which ended in abortion between his older brother and him.
    He found that all Ukrainian women are advised to abort because preborn children are excellent sources of organs and stem cells.
    Dr. Lazaryev found that the abortion rate in Ukraine is much, much higher than the official figures would suggest — in fact, about 1.2 million annually in a nation with a population of about 46 million, or more than six times higher than the abortion rate in the United States.
    As Dr. Lazaryev says, “The only thing which protects unborn life in Ukraine is the courage of pregnant women.”
    Continuing his investigations, Dr. Lazaryev found that women were paid $200 to $300 — three month’s salary — to carry their pregnancies to a very late stage and to deliver the babies alive in a kind of forced premature birth. This procedure allows the living baby’s organs to be harvested while they are still as fresh as possible.
    Dr. Lazaryev also found that every region of Ukraine has twin institutions. One does the late-term ‘artificial deliveries,’ and the other dismembers the live-born baby and passes the parts on to other buyers, who screen the material and then sell it at a huge markup to the worldwide network of “clinics” like the Institute for Regenerative Medicine.
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #19 on: March 03, 2022, 12:03:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on March 02, 2022, 03:54:20 PM
    I find it hard to believe he even asked him.

    I know. What were they thinking? 
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #20 on: March 03, 2022, 11:39:14 AM »
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    • The antipope Jorge Bergoglio is no authority to perform the Consecration.
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #21 on: March 04, 2022, 02:18:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on March 02, 2022, 02:59:00 PM
    Ukraine’s Catholic bishops ask Pope Francis to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary
    The bishops hope that this will bring an end to the conflict in Ukraine.

    Isn't it too late though? Louis XVI consecrated France to the Sacred Heart but it was 100 years past the time Our Lord asked for. I think both Our Lady and Our Lord said the consecration would done but "late". 
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #22 on: March 04, 2022, 02:38:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: dymphnaw on March 04, 2022, 02:18:41 PM
    Isn't it too late though? Louis XVI consecrated France to the Sacred Heart but it was 100 years past the time Our Lord asked for. I think both Our Lady and Our Lord said the consecration would done but "late".

    It was exactly 100 years TO THE DAY from when Our Lord asked for the consecration of France to His Sacred Heart that the King of France was deposed.  Even then he had 3.5 years in custody to think about it, and still didn't do it, and then he was beheaded.

    Our Lady asked for the consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart on June 13, 1929.  So I suspect that some unravelling will begin on June 13, 2029.  After which, 3.5 years puts it at 2033.  Interestingly 2033 will be 75 years since the 1958 "election" (IMO fraudulent) of Angelo Roncalli.  In the visions of Pope Leo XIII, he (reportedly) heard Our Lord say he would give Satan 75 years of control (though it was 100 years in one version, but I'm guessing the 75 is more accurate since the 100 is a round number).  Of course, some people dispute the authenticity of the Leo XIII vision story.


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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #23 on: March 04, 2022, 02:39:58 PM »
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    • Why does anyone wait for a Pope to consecrate their nation?!  You just do it.  We consecrate ourselves, by the total consecration, churches are consecrated. But isn't that interesting that this so-called pope has lost his authority. True.  Can anyone consecrate if they are not in the state of Grace. Hm?
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #24 on: March 04, 2022, 02:43:34 PM »
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    • I am wondering if the time for Satan began 1929, when the consecration was not done. Abomination Desolation, how can anyone turn their back to heaven, against the Holy Trinity and the Mother!!
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #25 on: March 04, 2022, 02:44:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Church Militant on March 03, 2022, 11:39:14 AM
    The antipope Jorge Bergoglio is no authority to perform the Consecration.

    Agreed.  But I doubt he'd ever do it anyway, unless he were to convert (and you're a sedeprivationist and believe that he would resume formal office at that time).

    There's one prohecy which speaks of a Black Pope and a White Pope dying on the same night, and after that would be the Triumph of the Church.  That could very well be Bergoglio (Jesuit superior often called a Black Pope) and we have Ratzinger walking around Rome in papal white.  So I suspect that those two will die the same night (they're both pretty old).

    There's another prophecy (I believe from Blessed Anna Maria Taigi, if I recall) that during a conclave Sts. Peter and Paul would appear to designate the next pope to be voted for.  That then would be the Holy Pope.  And it's that Pope who I believe will consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, but not until the major chastisement breaks out.  Will Bergoglio and Ratzinger live another 7 years?  Quite possibly.  Despite protestations of poor health from Ratzinger in 2012, it's been 10 years now and he's still fine.
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #26 on: March 04, 2022, 02:46:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: songbird on March 04, 2022, 02:43:34 PM
    I am wondering if the time for Satan began 1929, when the consecration was not done. Abomination Desolation, how can anyone turn their back to heaven, against the Holy Trinity and the Mother!!

    Perhaps.  And then the 100-year time period would put that in 2029 also.  Nothing happened in 2014 that would make one thing that Satan's control had come to an end.
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #27 on: March 04, 2022, 02:51:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: songbird on March 04, 2022, 02:39:58 PM
    Why does anyone wait for a Pope to consecrate their nation?!  You just do it.  We consecrate ourselves, by the total consecration, churches are consecrated. But isn't that interesting that this so-called pope has lost his authority. True.  Can anyone consecrate if they are not in the state of Grace. Hm?

    Absolutely.  Portugal was consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary in 1931 and, as a result, was spared the ravages of the Communist revolution that took place next door in Spain and was spared from World War II as well.  One year later, 1932, Salazar came into office, and was in charge until 1968 (just before the New Mass).

    https://crc-internet.org/our-doctrine/catholic-counter-reformation/the-whole-truth-about-fatima-volume-2/2-4-a-triple-miracle-portugal-showcase-of-our-lady.html

    I believe that Our Lady will protect any entity whose heads consecrate them to the Immaculate Heart of Mary.  I think it would be wise for Father and Mother to consecrate their families to the Immaculate Heart of Mary in these dark times (father and mother would be the family equivalent of pope and bishops).
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #28 on: March 04, 2022, 03:22:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 04, 2022, 02:38:06 PM
    It was exactly 100 years TO THE DAY from when Our Lord asked for the consecration of France to His Sacred Heart that the King of France was deposed.  Even then he had 3.5 years in custody to think about it, and still didn't do it, and then he was beheaded.

    Our Lady asked for the consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart on June 13, 1929.  So I suspect that some unravelling will begin on June 13, 2029.  After which, 3.5 years puts it at 2033.  Interestingly 2033 will be 75 years since the 1958 "election" (IMO fraudulent) of Angelo Roncalli.  In the visions of Pope Leo XIII, he (reportedly) heard Our Lord say he would give Satan 75 years of control (though it was 100 years in one version, but I'm guessing the 75 is more accurate since the 100 is a round number).  Of course, some people dispute the authenticity of the Leo XIII vision story.
    And 2000 years since Our Lord died and rose from the dead too. With all that's been going on the past 2-3 years, I think we are going to see something MAJOR around 2030.

    Quote from: Ladislaus on March 04, 2022, 02:46:36 PM
    Perhaps.  And then the 100-year time period would put that in 2029 also.  Nothing happened in 2014 that would make one thing that Satan's control had come to an end.
    But things, at least in the world, started to go completely sideways right around that time and became even more overt by 2017.
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    Re: Ukrainian Catholic Bishops Ask Francis for the Consecration of Russia
    « Reply #29 on: March 04, 2022, 07:40:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Merry on March 02, 2022, 04:31:15 PM
    Beats walking over to the Russian embassy in Rome.
    Francis is likelier to be travelling to the nearby Masonic Lodge (look on a map of Rome) for fraternity and perhaps instructions.
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