Author Topic: TVs everywhere (Read 13928 times)

Viva Cristo Rey · « **on:** March 04, 2025, 08:41:38 AM »

Television doesn’t belong in any church.

I’m at funeral and there is a tv with video.

They don’t belong in Sspx chapels either.

I know the local indult didn’t have tv but they had speakers so you could assist at Mass if no room or babies.

WorldsAway · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2025, 10:06:24 AM »

What is the issue with a TV livestreaming the mass in an "overflow" room where mass cannot be seen? You think it is better to stare at the wall or floor?

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2025, 12:22:43 PM »

Quote from: WorldsAway on March 04, 2025, 10:06:24 AM

What is the issue with a TV livestreaming the mass in an "overflow" room where mass cannot be seen? You think it is better to stare at the wall or floor?

Maybe it’s better to add a mass instead of tv. For the overflow. No. Tv does not belong in any church. It’s unholy. It’s so Protestant and Novus Ordo. Some churches have two.

Stay home if you want to watch television.

If there is overflow time to add a Mass.

Gray2023 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 04, 2025, 12:29:18 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 04, 2025, 12:22:43 PM

Maybe it’s better to add a mass instead of tv. For the overflow. No. Tv does not belong in any church. It’s unholy.

Maybe that is too much for an independent, older priest that is all by himself.

A TV is just a tool. It is neither evil nor good. The morality of it depends on what it is used for. God allowed for these tools, do we have to destroy them all because they can be used for evil?

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #4 on:** March 04, 2025, 12:37:21 PM »

I’m sorry. I understand what you say. The majority of television is evil. It is a tool not meant for church.

We were at priests’ home and we were watching the news and I was embarrassed when a female product commercial came on. These commercials are crude and nasty.

There has been many older priests and masses with zero tv.

WorldsAway · « **Reply #5 on:** March 04, 2025, 12:55:00 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 04, 2025, 12:37:21 PM

I’m sorry. I understand what you say. The majority of television is evil. It is a tool not meant for church.

And a livestreamed mass is NOT the majority of "television", it is NOT evil. A television streaming a mass in an overflow is not playing a movie, or tv series, sports game, or the news. It is a SCREEN, just like the computer SCREEN you are looking at in order to post these inane, retarded comments. The only thing the television in an overflow room is going to be showing is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. It is insane for you to be saying that is "unholy", you puritanical luddite

Gray2023 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 04, 2025, 01:03:25 PM »

Quote from: WorldsAway on March 04, 2025, 12:55:00 PM

And a livestreamed mass is NOT the majority of "television", it is NOT evil. A television streaming a mass in an overflow is not playing a movie, or tv series, sports game, or the news. It is a SCREEN, just like the computer SCREEN you are looking at.The only thing the television in an overflow room is going to be showing is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

I know what Viva says is frustrating, but name calling doesn't help people understand.

I adjusted your post to retain the meaning without the negativity.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #7 on:** March 04, 2025, 01:14:23 PM »

Quote from: WorldsAway on March 04, 2025, 12:55:00 PM

And a livestreamed mass is NOT the majority of "television", it is NOT evil. A television streaming a mass in an overflow is not playing a movie, or tv series, sports game, or the news. It is a SCREEN, just like the computer SCREEN you are looking at in order to post these inane, retarded comments. The only thing the television in an overflow room is going to be showing is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. It is insane for you to be saying that is "unholy", you puritanical luddite

lol. I don’t bring my phone to Sunday mass. Unless I’m by myself.

The majority of Television is filth, sodomy, taking God’s name in vain, adultery etc. There is more satanism, witchcraft on tv with a few crumbs of televised Mass etc.

having cell phones and televisions isn’t traditional Catholicism. It’s a very modern. Many masses held with overflow with televisions.

If there is overflow, there needs to be a bigger church or add a mass.

Seraphina · « **Reply #8 on:** March 04, 2025, 01:18:24 PM »

When there’s no Mass available or that I can get to, which happens fairly often, the ability to livestream is a blessing. True, it’s not on a TV as I don’t own one, but I do view on a tablet. I see nothing whatsoever wrong with a live TV at in a cry room or at a large event like a funeral or Mass that normally doesn’t have huge crowds. I went to a funeral last year where I watched on TV. The chapel was very small and reserved for family and a few invited close friends of the deceased.
In many situations, technology is easily abused, but when used for the good of souls, it ought to be used! After all, we’re not Amish or Luddites!

WorldsAway · « **Reply #9 on:** March 04, 2025, 01:25:46 PM »

Quote from: Gray2023 on March 04, 2025, 01:03:25 PM

I know what Viva says is frustrating, but name calling doesn't help people understand.

I adjusted your post to retain the meaning without the negativity.

You just so happened to remove my reference to the most egregious thing VCR said, that having a television streaming the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in an overflow room is "unholy". That is puritanical. Eschewing technology simply because it is "modern" is the behavior of a luddite. Her comments are retarded because it's apparent there is a severe lack of critical thinking that goes into them

Minnesota · « **Reply #10 on:** March 04, 2025, 01:34:50 PM »

Quote from: WorldsAway on March 04, 2025, 01:25:46 PM

You just so happened to remove my reference to the most egregious thing VCR said, that having a television streaming the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in an overflow room is "unholy". That is puritanical. Eschewing technology simply because it is "modern" is the behavior of a luddite. Her comments are retarded because it's apparent there is a severe lack of critical thinking that goes into them

VCR says while being on a device connected to the internet, on a forum... run by the internet... all with technology younger than the television by about 80 years.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #11 on:** March 04, 2025, 01:39:15 PM »

Quote from: Seraphina on March 04, 2025, 01:18:24 PM

When there’s no Mass available or that I can get to, which happens fairly often, the ability to livestream is a blessing. True, it’s not on a TV as I don’t own one, but I do view on a tablet. I see nothing whatsoever wrong with a live TV at in a cry room or at a large event like a funeral or Mass that normally doesn’t have huge crowds. I went to a funeral last year where I watched on TV. The chapel was very small and reserved for family and a few invited close friends of the deceased.
In many situations, technology is easily abused, but when used for the good of souls, it ought to be used! After all, we’re not Amish or Luddites!

Watching Mass at home is needed at times.

We aren’t traditional Catholics either.

Before Vatican II, the true Catholic Church tried to warn Catholics about certain tv programming and even shows, theatre, dances. It’s why the church is in crisis today. I guess Catholics were Amish or puritan like before Vatican II.

So many people who attend any chapels are holier than thou and dressed like frumps but during the week while they dress like hookers at weddings. Its hypocrisy.

many times you are in church and you can’t see because maybe a tall man is in the pew in front of you but I can read my missal and hear the priest. So what is wrong with speakers for the overflow?

television, marijuana, overeating, cell phones etc can be false idols.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #12 on:** March 04, 2025, 01:44:32 PM »

Quote from: WorldsAway on March 04, 2025, 01:25:46 PM

You just so happened to remove my reference to the most egregious thing VCR said, that having a television streaming the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in an overflow room is "unholy". That is puritanical. Eschewing technology simply because it is "modern" is the behavior of a luddite. Her comments are retarded because it's apparent there is a severe lack of critical thinking that goes into them

You are so immature. I guess the true traditional Catholics prior to Vatican II were puritanical and a behavior of a Luddite. How old are you that you cant listen to Mass and use your brain to assist at an overflow Mass? Obviously you lack critical thinking if you think tv is traditional Catholicism.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #13 on:** March 04, 2025, 01:47:44 PM »

QUESTION?
In the past I have told my daughter who is 27 years old, still lives at home and is preparing for marriage in July, that watching Vampire Diaries I believe opens portals to the demonic. The satan will already try to disturb her peace as she and her fiance prepare for this beautiful Sacrament. I believe you will agree with me that its not good to watch.
Can you give me your opinion on this matter please so that I can let her know that its just not mom "being mom" as I care for her soul. Any references to a book and of course Holy Scripture would be great to pass on to her.?? Thank you so much for being there for all of us in God's earth.
ANSWER!
1. *St Padre Pio was disturbed and disgusted by the television. He realized it would destroy family life and told everyone not to buy one. Regarding cinema or “sin” ema he always gave the same answer: “The devil is in it.” Could it be that a man which the world recognized as extremely holy, who heard countless souls in confession and would tell them sins omitted, could also have correct discernment about television? (“I See Far” p.61).
2. *American St Elizabeth Ann Seton (1774-1821) had a vision she could not understand in the middle 1800’s: “Every American would have a black box in their home and the devil would enter.” This one statement by a modern saints (canonized by Venerable Paul VI in 1975) should strike you heart like lightning. Go to any outlet store and look whether this American saint was wrong about the devil entering the home through it (Ibid).
Television was invented in 1928, almost 100 years before she made this prophetic statement which I am sure she did not fully understand.
3. *“We must watch over our mind, our hearts, and our senses, for these are the gates by which the devil enters in.” — St. John Vianney
4. Matthew 6:22-23 [RSV] says, "The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is sound, your whole body will be full of light; but if your eye is not sound, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness! !" The point of this passage is that much of our lifestyle is determined by how we use our eyes -- what we choose to look at.

Gray2023 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 04, 2025, 01:48:43 PM »

Quote from: WorldsAway on March 04, 2025, 01:25:46 PM

You just so happened to remove my reference to the most egregious thing VCR said, that having a television streaming the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in an overflow room is "unholy". That is puritanical. Eschewing technology simply because it is "modern" is the behavior of a luddite. Her comments are retarded because it's apparent there is a severe lack of critical thinking that goes into them

Maybe, but as you see VCRs next posts confirm that she will not be fazed by you.

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