What is the issue with a TV livestreaming the mass in an "overflow" room where mass cannot be seen? You think it is better to stare at the wall or floor?Maybe it’s better to add a mass instead of tv. For the overflow. No. Tv does not belong in any church. It’s unholy. It’s so Protestant and Novus Ordo. Some churches have two.
Maybe it’s better to add a mass instead of tv. For the overflow. No. Tv does not belong in any church. It’s unholy.Maybe that is too much for an independent, older priest that is all by himself.
I’m sorry. I understand what you say. The majority of television is evil. It is a tool not meant for church.And a livestreamed mass is NOT the majority of "television", it is NOT evil. A television streaming a mass in an overflow is not playing a movie, or tv series, sports game, or the news. It is a SCREEN, just like the computer SCREEN you are looking at in order to post these inane, retarded comments. The only thing the television in an overflow room is going to be showing is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. It is insane for you to be saying that is "unholy", you puritanical luddite
And a livestreamed mass is NOT the majority of "television", it is NOT evil. A television streaming a mass in an overflow is not playing a movie, or tv series, sports game, or the news. It is a SCREEN, just like the computer SCREEN you are looking at.The only thing the television in an overflow room is going to be showing is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.I know what Viva says is frustrating, but name calling doesn't help people understand.
And a livestreamed mass is NOT the majority of "television", it is NOT evil. A television streaming a mass in an overflow is not playing a movie, or tv series, sports game, or the news. It is a SCREEN, just like the computer SCREEN you are looking at in order to post these inane, retarded comments. The only thing the television in an overflow room is going to be showing is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. It is insane for you to be saying that is "unholy", you puritanical ludditelol. I don’t bring my phone to Sunday mass. Unless I’m by myself.
I know what Viva says is frustrating, but name calling doesn't help people understand.You just so happened to remove my reference to the most egregious thing VCR said, that having a television streaming the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in an overflow room is "unholy". That is puritanical. Eschewing technology simply because it is "modern" is the behavior of a luddite. Her comments are retarded because it's apparent there is a severe lack of critical thinking that goes into them
I adjusted your post to retain the meaning without the negativity. :cowboy:
You just so happened to remove my reference to the most egregious thing VCR said, that having a television streaming the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in an overflow room is "unholy". That is puritanical. Eschewing technology simply because it is "modern" is the behavior of a luddite. Her comments are retarded because it's apparent there is a severe lack of critical thinking that goes into themVCR says while being on a device connected to the internet, on a forum... run by the internet... all with technology younger than the television by about 80 years.
When there’s no Mass available or that I can get to, which happens fairly often, the ability to livestream is a blessing. True, it’s not on a TV as I don’t own one, but I do view on a tablet. I see nothing whatsoever wrong with a live TV at in a cry room or at a large event like a funeral or Mass that normally doesn’t have huge crowds. I went to a funeral last year where I watched on TV. The chapel was very small and reserved for family and a few invited close friends of the deceased.Watching Mass at home is needed at times.
In many situations, technology is easily abused, but when used for the good of souls, it ought to be used! After all, we’re not Amish or Luddites!
You just so happened to remove my reference to the most egregious thing VCR said, that having a television streaming the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in an overflow room is "unholy". That is puritanical. Eschewing technology simply because it is "modern" is the behavior of a luddite. Her comments are retarded because it's apparent there is a severe lack of critical thinking that goes into themYou are so immature. I guess the true traditional Catholics prior to Vatican II were puritanical and a behavior of a Luddite. How old are you that you cant listen to Mass and use your brain to assist at an overflow Mass? Obviously you lack critical thinking if you think tv is traditional Catholicism.
You just so happened to remove my reference to the most egregious thing VCR said, that having a television streaming the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in an overflow room is "unholy". That is puritanical. Eschewing technology simply because it is "modern" is the behavior of a luddite. Her comments are retarded because it's apparent there is a severe lack of critical thinking that goes into themMaybe, but as you see VCRs next posts confirm that she will not be fazed by you.
You are so immature. I guess the true traditional Catholics prior to Vatican II were puritanical and a behavior of a Luddite. How old are you that you cant listen to Mass and use your brain to assist at an overflow Mass? Obviously you lack critical thinking if you think tv is traditional Catholicism.The Catholics prior to Vatican II did not need overflow rooms because there were so many valid, licit masses available. How old are you that you cannot differentiate between a television being used to stream Mass versus movies, tv shows, etc.? Too old.
The Catholic Church is in crisis because of the world.Lack of critical thinking on display yet again. What is more likely, that Padre Pio was referring to a television being used to watch movies, shows, news, sports etc., or that he was referring to a television screen being used to stream the mass in an overflow room? (Hint: The latter usage did not exist yet!) That should narrow down the possible answers from two to one. Use your thinking cap!
Tv is of the world.
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Lack of critical thinking on display yet again. What is more likely, that Padre Pio was referring to movies, shows, news, sports etc., or that he was referring to a television screen being used to stream the mass in an overflow room? (Hint: The latter usage did not exist yet!) That should narrow down the possible answers from two to one. Use your thinking cap!Padre Pio discourage Catholics from even purchasing a television. That’s correct tv anywhere in church is a new and modernist. You even admit it. Use your thinking cap. TV in church is so very Protestant and Novus Ordo. You don’t need tv , you need speakers or maybe your brain is so dull that you can’t listen and comprehend. Use your thinking cap. Most tvs are used to spy and collect data.
The Catholics prior to Vatican II did not need overflow rooms because there were so many valid, licit masses available. How old are you that you cannot differentiate between a television being used to stream Mass versus movies, tv shows, etc.? Too old.
The Catholics prior to Vatican II did not need overflow rooms because there were so many valid, licit masses available. How old are you that you cannot differentiate between a television being used to stream Mass versus movies, tv shows, etc.? Too old.The tv has access to other channels. Who is paying for the tv and service. It’s a waste of money.
Third Order Franciscans.Third Orders have joined by choice and agreed to the rules. They don’t expect nonmembers to obey them or cater to them in different environments. I don’t own a TV, don’t see any use for one in my home since, as you say, there is so much rot on them. There’s nothing good on TV that I can’t access on my tablet. Nonetheless, if I go to someone else’s home and there’s a TV, I don’t tell them to get rid of it. How do I know how they use it? Maybe it’s for watching old videos of good shows, or they’ve a video of their wedding or old Masses, their children’s Confirmations or other Sacraments. I don’t refuse to enter their home if I see a TV. The only time I’d say anything is if there’s something bad playing on it. If I’ve taken a vow to never watch or be in the presence of a TV, well, I could ask them to turn it off, and if they refused, I have to excuse myself and leave. Most Catholics are not Third Order Franciscans.
Padre Pio discourage Catholics from even purchasing a television. That’s correct tv anywhere in church is a new and modernist. You even admit it. Use your thinking cap. TV in church is so very Protestant and Novus Ordo. You don’t need tv , you need speakers or maybe your brain is so dull that you can’t listen and comprehend. Use your thinking cap. Most tvs are used to spy and collect data.Again, Padre Pio was not referring to a TV used to internally view and hear what is going on inside the church. Internal systems not attached to broadcast aren’t spying on anyone. Or if they are, I’m not sure they can’t in 2025, but one can buy an old system in a thrift shop, save lots of money, and there’ll be no monthly bills. Building an addition or getting a larger church is much more expensive than a TV monitor and video camera!
who paid for the tv and service? Maybe take the money and put it towards a bigger church.
I shouldn’t have to breathe in cigarettes or pot at Mass either.You’ve been to a Mass where people were smoking cigarettes and marijuana?
The Catholics prior to Vatican II did not need overflow rooms because there were so many valid, licit masses available. How old are you that you cannot differentiate between a television being used to stream Mass versus movies, tv shows, etc.? Too old.How old are you? Why all of a sudden there are now televisions in chapels when there wasn’t? Going along with the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr church. We all see the gradual changes to SSPX and many that go to independents chapels are living a double life too.
You’ve been to a Mass where people were smoking cigarettes and marijuana?Yes. I’m so glad someone removed the ashtray out from the doorway of the church. That’s bad that they even needed an ashtray.
How old are you? Why all of a sudden there are now televisions in chapels when there wasn’t? Going along with the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr church. We all see the gradual changes to SSPX and many that go to independents chapels are living a double life too.Prayers for you Viva. You sound a little paranoid. God wants you at peace. If your peace is disturbed say some Our Father's and Hail Marys to regain your peace. :pray::pray::pray:
These aren’t regular tvs. These are “smart” tvs. Big brother is watching.
Prayers for you Viva. You sound a little paranoid. God wants you at peace. If your peace is disturbed say some Our Father's and Hail Marys to regain your peace. :pray::pray::pray:Paranoid. No. I’m just annoyed by the hypocrisy and lukewarmness.
Padre Pio discourage Catholics from even purchasing a television.Right, because the only use at the time was...watching movies, news, etc.
That’s correct tv anywhere in church is a new and modernist.Luddite
maybe your brain is so dull that you can’t listen and comprehend.Ironic.
Most tvs are used to spy and collect data.You say as you use the internet. Imagine what Padre Pio would say about the internet if he were alive today. How many more souls have been lost due to the internet and the much more readily available filth on it than televisions. I don't expect you to understand the contradiction
The tv has access to other channels. Who is paying for the tv and service. It’s a waste of money.Again, the TV is only being used to stream the mass. Again, you have to pay separately for streaming services. Those are generally not included when you purchase a TV. I would assume the TV is paid using chapel funds. It's not a waste of money if it benefits those in an overflow room
Tv is part of the problem why there are not many valid licit masses available. duh. How blind are you people to see that owning a tv has caused many problems in our society. Padre Pio advised Catholics to dress modestly and don’t own a tv. Third order St Pius X also said not to own tv and dress modestly.
We can see that traditional Catholicism is sliding back into modernism.
This all how the Catholic Church ended up in apostasy.
Why all of a sudden there are now televisions in chapels when there wasn’t?Because the technology was not readily available before, and because chapels are growing.
These aren’t regular tvs. These are “smart” tvs. Big brother is watching.
You’ve been to a Mass where people were smoking cigarettes and marijuana?:laugh1::laugh2:
Paranoid. No. I’m just annoyed by the hypocrisy and lukewarmness.Don't you see your own hypocrisy?
Yes. I’m so glad someone removed the ashtray out from the doorway of the church. That’s bad that they even needed an ashtray.:facepalm: I’ve never heard of such a thing! Not even in the novus ordo! I don’t doubt you, but at least someone had the sense to rectify the situation. As for the picture, I went to a chapel (SSPX), where the pictures of Benedict and another small photo of Bp., then Fr. Williamson kept being found stashed in various places like janitor’s closet, back or on top of kitchen cabinets, etc. There was a place in back of the parking lot where a group of older women, then in their 60’s and 70’s, hung out and smoked cigarettes after Mass. They’d stamp out their butts on the ground. The volunteer custodian grudgingly swept it up. Marijuana, no! Fr. wouldn’t have allowed smoking and an ash tray in front of the door! Catholics are allowed to smoke tobacco, but it seems to me in the doorway is NOT the place!
And thanks to whoever removed Bergolio’s picture from the church.
I guess they got to get high to appreciate a low Mass.
Nadir was the last woman worth allowing on the Internet. Can probably let Seraphina keep her Internet card too. After that, it's past time for women to get off the Internet.Thanks? I read some threads on CI and comment. I don’t do social media of any type like Facebook, X, Instagram, TikTok, or whatever. It’s a bunch of gossip, self-promotion, bullying, plus if you value your privacy, it’s no good. I live-stream Masses, look at crafts, sewing, cooking, nature, sermons, conferences, the weather forecast, briefly scan the “news.” I use email to correspond with a very few people, and to get basic information, such as, what time does Farm and Home Supply close tonight? Oh, and I’ve purchased items like books, a Rosary, an office chair for my nephew’s birthday, etc. That’s the extent of it. In fact, it’s time to sign off because the store closes at 7:00 and I need to make another stop en route.
:facepalm: I’ve never heard of such a thing! Not even in the novus ordo!You've never heard of such a thing because it simply doesn't happen. VCR's obsession with Traditional Catholics "smoking pot outside of mass" stems from this thread, and coincides with her compulsion of bringing up sodomy whenever marijuana is mentioned:
Don't you see your own hypocrisy?No. It’s about smart tv physically being present in a church. I’m here on the internet but I’m not in church. I don’t take my cell phone to church.
The internet holds more atrocities than a television, yet here you participating on an online forum.
You've never heard of such a thing because it simply doesn't happen. VCR's obsession with Traditional Catholics "smoking pot outside of mass" stems from this thread, and coincides with her compulsion of bringing up sodomy whenever marijuana is mentioned:Yes. It does happen. One can smell marijuana on a person. Truth hurts.
https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/people-smoked-weed-before-mass/
She never saw anyone smoke pot, and never saw the supposed pot smokers engaging in sodomy..yet labels them as pothead sodomites and says they should not be allowed to attend mass.
Pretty easy to tell which posts are hers if you have read her comments before. Interesting to note how much more vitriol she displays when posting anonymously!
Because the technology was not readily available before, and because chapels are growing.The technology has been available for years. Now trad have televisions in there chapels like the Protestants.
Big brother is watching mass? Maybe it will lead to a conversion or two :laugh2:
Right, because the only use at the time was...watching movies, news, etc.It is a waste of money to use funds for tv and service. There shouldn’t be any overflow if enough priests were supplied with additional Masses.
Luddite
Ironic.
You say as you use the internet. Imagine what Padre Pio would say about the internet if he were alive today. How many more souls have been lost due to the internet and the much more readily available filth on it than televisions. I don't expect you to understand the contradiction
Again, the TV is only being used to stream the mass. Again, you have to pay separately for streaming services. Those are generally not included when you purchase a TV. I would assume the TV is paid using chapel funds. It's not a waste of money if it benefits those in an overflow room
A TV being used in an overflow room to stream a mass does not result in apostasy
It is a waste of money to use funds for tv and service. There shouldn’t be any overflow if enough priests were supplied with additional Masses.SSPX is not the only Traditional Option. Many people go to independent chapels that do not have new priests to help the old priests. Pray for vocations. We are in a CRISIS.
Again. Stop twisting words. We are talking about in a chapel. No one should be bringing in their cell phones to Mass or at least turn it off instead of texting, playing video games etc. No need for tv. Too.
Padre Pio said that Catholics should not own zero televisions. So Padre Pio would be against cell phones too.
Liberals twist words to justify their idols.
Yes. It does happen. One can smell marijuana on a person. Truth hurts.When someone asks you, "You’ve been to a Mass where people were smoking cigarettes and marijuana?" and you respond "Yes" that is called lying, Viva. You have never seen someone smoking marijuana at Mass.
It is a waste of money to use funds for tv and service. There shouldn’t be any overflow if enough priests were supplied with additional Masses.Those in the overflow benefit, not a waste of money. Not so simple as supplying additional masses
Again. Stop twisting words. We are talking about in a chapel. No one should be bringing in their cell phones to Mass or at least turn it off instead of texting, playing video games etc. No need for tv. Too.
Padre Pio said that Catholics should not own zero televisions. So Padre Pio would be against cell phones too.
When someone asks you, "You’ve been to a Mass where people were smoking cigarettes and marijuana?" and you respond "Yes" that is called lying, Viva. You have never seen someone smoking marijuana at Mass.I’ll concede it IS possible she has seen or at least smelled pot on someone at Mass. I’ve never seen or smelled it, but I’ve seen some pretty bizarre and bad behavior, mainly in a novus ordo church, but a few times in a traditional setting as well.
SSPX is not the only Traditional Option. Many people go to independent chapels that do not have new priests to help the old priests. Pray for vocations. We are in a CRISIS.These independent chapels don’t have tv at all.
When someone asks you, "You’ve been to a Mass where people were smoking cigarettes and marijuana?" and you respond "Yes" that is called lying, Viva. You have never seen someone smoking marijuana at Mass.Again. I DONT TAKE MY CELL PHONE TO MASS. I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE SMOKE CIGARETTES. I HAVE SMELLED MARIJUANA ON PEOPLE. PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM HAVE EVEN PROMOTED POT.
Those in the overflow benefit, not a waste of money. Not so simple as supplying additional masses
Except you have many times, and in this very thread, said catholics should not use televisions under any circuмstances. You have made that very clear. You have made it very clear that Padre Pio was against television precisely because of the filth on it. How much more so on the internet! Do you not think that Padre Pio would be adamantly against the internet if he were alive today, considering it is many times more dangerous than television? Time to get off the internet Viva, it's new, it's modern, it's filled with sin. Stand by your principles, don't be a hypocrite!
Nice 6 posts in a row, by the way. Never change
Again. I DONT TAKE MY CELL PHONE TO MASS. I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE SMOKE CIGARETTES. I HAVE SMELLED MARIJUANA ON PEOPLE. PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM HAVE EVEN PROMOTED POT.Your computer can do anything a television can do. In fact, it can do even more. There is much more evil on the internet than on TV. You shouldn't have a computer in your home. Log off and throw it out
You are just a punk. It was about televisions recently placed in “traditional Catholic” chapels.
These independent chapels don’t have tv at all.I know of two that have TVs in the cry room.
You need to get off the internet. You are disrespectful and you fail to read and comprehend.Your computer can do anything a television can do. In fact, it can do even more. There is much more evil on the internet than on TV. You shouldn't have a computer in your home. Log off and throw it out
And Padre Pio said it. Not me.
You are 23 years old. Grow up.
Your computer can do anything a television can do. In fact, it can do even more. There is much more evil on the internet than on TV. You shouldn't have a computer in your home. Log off and throw it outWhat is your problem? I said tv should not be in church. (And cell phones should not go off in church.). You seem not able to comprehend. You worldly; not worlds away. You need to grow up and log off instead being rude and obnoxious. Typical punk attitude. Go tend to your wife and children.
I know of two that have TVs in the cry room.Church should be a sanctuary not of the world. Jesus Christ now and forever.
As for cell phones, you can leave it in your car if that’s how you get to Mass. If you perchance take public transportation, where should you leave it?
Viva, I think the problem here is that you long for the world to be holy and Catholic, which is good! What is not good for your soul is that you allow yourself to get too upset by others’ sins. Please don’t let the devil anger and discourage you in this way. It is a temptation by which Satan wants to deprive you of the Mass and Sacraments. The enemy tempts evil souls with evil, but he tempts good souls with seemingly good thoughts, feelings, attitudes, and actions. That’s why hype we are admonished to “take captive our thoughts to serve Christ.”
Read II Corinthians 10:4-6.
It’s almost Ash Wednesday. This is an auspicious time to end this thread.
May you and everyone have a productive and holy Lent!
Blessings to all!
Seraphina
What is your problem? I said tv should not be in church. (And cell phones should not go off in church.). You seem not able to comprehend. You worldly; not worlds away. You need to grow up and log off instead being rude and obnoxious. Typical punk attitude. Go tend to your wife and children.Your computer can do anything a television can do. In fact, it can do even more. There is much more evil on the internet than on TV. You shouldn't have a computer in your home. Log off and throw it out
Your computer can do anything a television can do. In fact, it can do even more. There is much more evil on the internet than on TV. You shouldn't have a computer in your home. Log off and throw it outYou are a broken record. Are you possessed? They say that evil can come through electronics. Do you even have a job? You need to log off and get a life. I don’t have a computer in my home. You need to log off whatever you are on and start praying and fasting. I can see traditional Catholicism is gradually going Protestant and Novus Ordo.
You are a broken record.No Viva, you are the broken record. You have been a broken record on this forum for over 12 years, and I'm sure much longer in the "real world". You litter the forum with your all your BS puritanical little one-liners and throw a fit when you are exposed for being wrong, a hypocrite, a liar, etc. You say TVs are evil and of the world, you constantly use Padre Pio as a source and authority. The issue you take with television is that there is much immoral content that is shown on it, with Padre Pio saying the same. If that is your reasoning for eschewing Television in all forms and in any circuмstances, you should not allow yourself to use the internet. Many more souls have been lost due to the internet. I don't care if you don't have a computer. If you use a smart phone or tablet you are still a hypocrite. A tablet or smart phone can do anything a television can do and more. It is time for you to leave the forum
Are you possessed? They say that evil can come through electronics.
What is your problem? I said tv should not be in church. (And cell phones should not go off in church.). You seem not able to comprehend. You worldly; not worlds away. You need to grow up and log off instead being rude and obnoxious. Typical punk attitude. Go tend to your wife and children.Viva, why are you so angry all the time?
Viva, why are you so angry all the time?Am I?
No Viva, you are the broken record. You have been a broken record on this forum for over 12 years, and I'm sure much longer in the "real world". You litter the forum with your all your BS puritanical little one-liners and throw a fit when you are exposed for being wrong, a hypocrite, a liar, etc. You say TVs are evil and of the world, you constantly use Padre Pio as a source and authority. The issue you take with television is that there is much immoral content that is shown on it, with Padre Pio saying the same. If that is your reasoning for eschewing Television in all forms and in any circuмstances, you should not allow yourself to use the internet. Many more souls have been lost due to the internet. I don't care if you don't have a computer. If you use a smart phone or tablet you are still a hypocrite. A tablet or smart phone can do anything a television can do and more. It is time for you to leave the forumDo you know me? Happy ASh Wednesday to be slandered by a 23 year old with zero life. In the real world I go to church where there is tv present downstairs. You are the hypocrite and you lack charity like most who attend these chapels.
Another reason for you to get rid of any devices with internet :sleep:
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Do you know me? Happy ASh Wednesday to be slandered by a 23 year old with zero life. In the real world I go to church where there is tv present downstairs. You are the hypocrite and you lack charity like most who attend these chapels.Wow! This IS getting out of hand. Viva AND WorldsAway, I think you’re missing the point! Our Lord wants you (plural) to work on replacing your predominant faults with the corresponding virtues. His timing is perfect, just at the beginning of Lent. Replace anger and rash judgment with forbearance and mildness, harsh words with gentle, temper with meekness, disdain with charity, rudeness with being polite, disrespect with respect, condemnation with forgiveness, and so on. Review last Sunday’s Epistle, I Corinthians 13. Just DO as St. Paul says. Never mind your “feelings.” Do as instructed and your feelings will eventually follow. Don’t give up until the thought of one another no longer stirs up wrath. It sounds as if you are both of a choleric temperament, so Our Lord has given you a Lenten challenge. You may never be “besties.” That’s okay. Read Romans 12:18-20.
Don’t you work a job? Or do you like to abuse technology by slandering people.
You’re so immature. You talk like a stalker too. Who are you to judge me.
You lie. You aren’t a traditional Catholic.
You talk talk like a liberal Protestant. Also, I don’t only use Padre Pio. The old SSPX discouraged Catholics from owning a television especially if they were members of the third order of St Pius X. Keep posting. Because it demonstrates your lack charity and intelligence.
From what we hear that many men struggle with pornography addiction…. Adultery. How many young people are addicted to video games. Many are in their 20’s living with parents. That’s messed up. Is that you?
In real life most traditional Catholics are fake and phonies like yourself.
From what we hear that many men struggle with pornography addiction…. Adultery. How many young people are addicted to video games. Many are in their 20’s living with parents. That’s messed up. Is that you?Missed the edit. This is not the first time Viva has baselessly accused people of being porn addicts:
In real life most traditional Catholics are fake and phonies like yourself.
Wow! This IS getting out of hand. Viva AND WorldsAway, I think you’re missing the point! Our Lord wants you (plural) to work on replacing your predominant faults with the corresponding virtues. His timing is perfect, just at the beginning of Lent. Replace anger and rash judgment with forbearance and mildness, harsh words with gentle, temper with meekness, disdain with charity, rudeness with being polite, disrespect with respect, condemnation with forgiveness, and so on. Review last Sunday’s Epistle, I Corinthians 13. Just DO as St. Paul says. Never mind your “feelings.” Do as instructed and your feelings will eventually follow. Don’t give up until the thought of one another no longer stirs up wrath. It sounds as if you are both of a choleric temperament, so Our Lord has given you a Lenten challenge. You may never be “besties.” That’s okay. Read Romans 12:18-20.The problem is that VCR has been able to discern that I am a jobless, porn addicted, video game addicted, adulterating, lukewarm, modernist stalker with zero life because I do not oppose the usage of TVs livestreaming mass in overflow rooms. When push comes to shove I cannot think of a user who displays more vitriol and hatred. This is not the first time she has done this. I have attacked the content of her posts because she is wrong. She has attacked my character because she is bitter and lacking in charity, as she has done to many users
:( When God brings disagreeable people into our lives, it’s to make us holier!
:pray: May you have a fruitful Lent!
~ Seraphina
The problem is that VCR has been able to discern that I am a jobless, porn addicted, video game addicted, adulterating, lukewarm, modernist stalker with zero life because I do not oppose the usage of TVs livestreaming mass in overflow rooms. When push comes to shove I cannot think of a user who displays more vitriol and hatred. This is not the first time she has done this. I have attacked the content of her posts because she is wrong. She has attacked my character because she is bitter and lacking in charity, as she has done to many usersWhen dealing with people who just don't get it and won't stop, it is best to walk away. I know that she made some very hurtful accusations and that is not fair. Some people can be reasoned with, others can't. Just learn whose who and act accordingly.
Wow! This IS getting out of hand. Viva AND WorldsAway, I think you’re missing the point! Our Lord wants you (plural) to work on replacing your predominant faults with the corresponding virtues. His timing is perfect, just at the beginning of Lent. Replace anger and rash judgment with forbearance and mildness, harsh words with gentle, temper with meekness, disdain with charity, rudeness with being polite, disrespect with respect, condemnation with forgiveness, and so on. Review last Sunday’s Epistle, I Corinthians 13. Just DO as St. Paul says. Never mind your “feelings.” Do as instructed and your feelings will eventually follow. Don’t give up until the thought of one another no longer stirs up wrath. It sounds as if you are both of a choleric temperament, so Our Lord has given you a Lenten challenge. You may never be “besties.” That’s okay. Read Romans 12:18-20.Thank you for saying this.
:( When God brings disagreeable people into our lives, it’s to make us holier!
:pray: May you have a fruitful Lent!
~ Seraphina
WA, you can be 100% correct, but if you lack charity, it’s useless. I Cor. 13!Yes, I could have been more charitable. I will try to have a productive lent :pray:
Just think how holy you could be by Easter.
When dealing with people who just don't get it and won't stop, it is best to walk away. I know that she made some very hurtful accusations and that is not fair. Some people can be reasoned with, others can't. Just learn whose who and act accordingly.Personally I don't really mind it that much as I am anonymous. It is more so her soul we should be worried about because even though her accusations do not damage my character, they are still bitter, vile, baseless sentiments she is holding in her heart towards a fellow Catholic
Watching Mass at home is needed at times.
We aren’t traditional Catholics either.
Before Vatican II, the true Catholic Church tried to warn Catholics about certain tv programming and even shows, theatre, dances. It’s why the church is in crisis today. I guess Catholics were Amish or puritan like before Vatican II.
So many people who attend any chapels are holier than thou and dressed like frumps but during the week while they dress like hookers at weddings. Its hypocrisy.
many times you are in church and you can’t see because maybe a tall man is in the pew in front of you but I can read my missal and hear the priest. So what is wrong with speakers for the overflow?
television, marijuana, overeating, cell phones etc can be false idols.
Actually, speakers for the overflow is a good idea. I don't think that a TV is really needed, when we know how to follow along in a missal, or not even follow along. We can tell by the words being said by the priest as to where he is in the course of Mass. Maybe, for newbies to the TLM, a TV is helpful, but they really shouldn't be the basis for a norm.From the point of view of a mother, if you are nursing or have unruly children then a screen is helpful to see where you are in the Mass and help give some instruction to your children without bothering others. I spent 8 years in such a room and I am very grateful to its utility.
I have a TV and watch occasionally, but it would be better if I didn't. I mostly watch old movies and Hallmark-type stuff.
I recently read an article about the problem with TV. It's not only that so much programing contains bad things, but that most TV shows don't depict the fact that many Americans still have some sort of religious beliefs. On TV, the characters almost never have any religious beliefs, and that does not represent the reality for many people. But still we want to watch TV. I think it's a way to de-stress and forget about real life. But it can also move us away from growing in holiness, if we depend on it. It can be the same with the computer, though we can better control what we view on a computer. Just my 2 cents worth.
Thanks? I read some threads on CI and comment. I don’t do social media of any type like Facebook, X, Instagram, TikTok, or whatever. It’s a bunch of gossip, self-promotion, bullying, plus if you value your privacy, it’s no good. I live-stream Masses, look at crafts, sewing, cooking, nature, sermons, conferences, the weather forecast, briefly scan the “news.” I use email to correspond with a very few people, and to get basic information, such as, what time does Farm and Home Supply close tonight? Oh, and I’ve purchased items like books, a Rosary, an office chair for my nephew’s birthday, etc. That’s the extent of it. In fact, it’s time to sign off because the store closes at 7:00 and I need to make another stop en route.I forgot about AMDG. Absolutely she gets to keep her Internet card too. And Jen51.
Add AMDG to your list. She’s into sewing and on the women only thread. I probably missed a few people. There are men who shouldn’t be online, either!
Am I?Yes. I can't remember the last time you seemed content and you keep lashing out at anyone who makes the slightest disagreement with you.
I forgot about AMDG. Absolutely she gets to keep her Internet card too. And Jen51.Keep Soubirous, too.
Keep Soubirous, too.Well, darn🤐
Put the rest of us on view-only mode, while retaining the Women Only forum.
I like Fr. Feeney's comment: "To have a TV in your living room is like having a iw in your living room."Maybe TA because I’m old, I’ve no idea what is iw?
Of course I was raised on iw-tv and iw-movies.
Maybe TA because I’m old, I’ve no idea what is iw?The people who Jesus called "Children of the Devil." I have to use different spelling because these people are so powerful that the owner of this forum has felt the need to warn members to never use the word outside of the members only subforum.
https://homework.study.com/explanation/what-year-was-the-letter-j-invented.html
...Until the year 1524, there was no letter 'J' in the alphabet. The letter 'J' was originally the same letter as 'I. ' The 'father of the letter J' is Gian Giorgio Trissino, an Italian author and grammarian who lived from 1478 to 1550.
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Now I know where the J comes from. I wonder when the Latin dictionaries adopted it?
IESU, miserere nobis. +
I don't like cameras/ photographers in a church. But then, look at Padre Pio...cameras were basically in his face at his last mass.
Interesting that I saw two newscasts , interviews with Sspx priests, and sure enough, the interviews were held in the nave...It's like the pagan media want to insult us catholics by denying that there anything holy in a Catholic church: ie. No Real Presence in the Tabernacle. Chipping away at the holiness/sacred...
Yup! iw doodedit.
How old are you? Why all of a sudden there are now televisions in chapels when there wasn’t? Going along with the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr church. We all see the gradual changes to SSPX and many that go to independents chapels are living a double life too.Because the technology is there, the cost is lower and we have the infrastructure to stream a feed from a phone camera to a TV with wifi or a data connection. You can buy a regular TV and something to stream the YT feed from a phone to the TV for less than $100. Walmart has their own brand which is actually quite good.
These aren’t regular tvs. These are “smart” tvs. Big brother is watching.