Author Topic: TVs everywhere (Read 15245 times)

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #20 on:** March 04, 2025, 02:09:10 PM »

Quote from: WorldsAway on March 04, 2025, 02:02:29 PM

Lack of critical thinking on display yet again. What is more likely, that Padre Pio was referring to movies, shows, news, sports etc., or that he was referring to a television screen being used to stream the mass in an overflow room? (Hint: The latter usage did not exist yet!) That should narrow down the possible answers from two to one. Use your thinking cap!

Padre Pio discourage Catholics from even purchasing a television. That’s correct tv anywhere in church is a new and modernist. You even admit it. Use your thinking cap. TV in church is so very Protestant and Novus Ordo. You don’t need tv , you need speakers or maybe your brain is so dull that you can’t listen and comprehend. Use your thinking cap. Most tvs are used to spy and collect data.

who paid for the tv and service? Maybe take the money and put it towards a bigger church.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #21 on:** March 04, 2025, 02:14:09 PM »

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Third Order of St Pius X

“No TV means no TV at all, even if you are going to use it only for watching good movies... I remember how the laity, even non tertiaries, where encouraged to remove their TVs from home, for even owning one might be a "near occasion of sin", or you might give ways to corrupt your children……..”

THIS IS NOT MY POST. Just another puritan. Lol

Angelus · « **Reply #22 on:** March 04, 2025, 02:20:30 PM »

Quote from: WorldsAway on March 04, 2025, 01:59:26 PM

The Catholics prior to Vatican II did not need overflow rooms because there were so many valid, licit masses available. How old are you that you cannot differentiate between a television being used to stream Mass versus movies, tv shows, etc.? Too old.

It would seem that an adjacent "overflow room" that allows the person to be "morally present" suffices to satisfy the Precept of "hearing Mass."

But watching a Mass on a screen from one's home, for example, would not provide the "moral presence" to satisfy the Precept. Still, watching from home seems better than nothing, as long as the person watching the screen did not think that they satisfied the Precept by doing so.

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/35354/pg35354-images.html

2577. How Mass Must Be Heard.—In reference to the person who hears Mass, the positive part of the precept calls for external assistance and internal devotion.

(a) Thus, the external or bodily assistance must be such that one can be said to take part in the divine worship. This happens when one is physically present, that is, when one is in the same building or place as the celebrant and can either see or hear him, or is morally present, that is, not in the same building but able to see or hear him naturally (e.g., by looking from the window of a neighboring house), or is unable to see or hear him but joined with the congregation (e.g., those who are outside the closed doors of the church but who can follow the bells and choir to some extent, those who are inside with the congregation but behind a pillar that shuts off the view). In a field Mass amplifiers can carry the voice far out to the edge of a vast crowd. But there does not seem to be a sufficient moral presence when Mass is “seen” by television or “heard” over the radio, since in these cases one is not present to the consecrated species or united to the worshippers.

Seraphina · « **Reply #23 on:** March 04, 2025, 02:26:29 PM »

One can say speakers have no place in church, either. Are they not technology? People could simply sit outside and read their missals. Are speakers not used outside church to broadcast evil? Perhaps we should not use cars to get to Mass, either! After all, billions of people use motor vehicles for evil purposes. Can you walk to Mass?
Is it not sinful to even comment on CI? Billions use the internet to view pornography. The point is, that technology in itself is neither good nor evil. Just make sure our use of it is for the good of our soul.
Anything can be made into an idol. Many people, women in particular, make their clothes into an idol. So, shall we go about naked or wear burlap potato sacks or Hefty bags with three holes cut in them?It’s fine if you personally choose not to watch Mass on a TV, keep your eyes averted and read your missal, or just listen with your eyes closed, but please don’t impose your choice on a neutral matter on others.
TVs in chapels aren’t tuned in to broadcast shows any more than speakers are blasting death metal rock music. And honestly, if a very tall man blocks my view at Mass, or I find myself seated by people who distract me, I move if at all possible. I can scoot a little ways to either side to see around a tall man. Once, I moved as discreetly as possible to a pew on the opposite side of the church because a woman sitting beside me had on a fur coat to which I was allergic. Sneezing, coughing, nose blowing is not only annoying to me, but to those around me including the woman with the coat! I don’t what kind of fur it was, but I was clearly allergic! I had nothing personally against the woman; I didn’t know her. I wouldn’t think of telling her it was sinful to wear a fur coat to church, or anywhere else for that matter!

BTW, the person resorting to name calling and rudeness to Viva, please stop. This IS a case where one should disagree agreeably!

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #24 on:** March 04, 2025, 02:34:41 PM »

Quote from: WorldsAway on March 04, 2025, 01:59:26 PM

The Catholics prior to Vatican II did not need overflow rooms because there were so many valid, licit masses available. How old are you that you cannot differentiate between a television being used to stream Mass versus movies, tv shows, etc.? Too old.

The tv has access to other channels. Who is paying for the tv and service. It’s a waste of money.

Tv is part of the problem why there are not many valid licit masses available. duh. How blind are you people to see that owning a tv has caused many problems in our society. Padre Pio advised Catholics to dress modestly and don’t own a tv. Third order St Pius X also said not to own tv and dress modestly.

We can see that traditional Catholicism is sliding back into modernism.

This all how the Catholic Church ended up in apostasy.

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