Author Topic: True catholics dont use words and phrases like you do... (Read 7193 times)

gunfighter · « **Reply #15 on:** September 08, 2011, 03:46:39 PM »

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Ignorant One

You may think you are clever with your speech. However, to some it comes off as juvenile. I could come up with clever names for you, but at my age it would reflect badly upon myself.

Am I offended, not in the least. Call me any name you want, it really means nothing to me.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #16 on:** September 08, 2011, 03:52:04 PM »

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Mere vulgarity and actual obscenity are TWO things -- thus, two different words. Profanity is using a sacred word (the Holy Name of Jesus, for example) in a way that is...PROFANE :)

Take all admonitions from God and His Saints seriously; just make sure they apply to the issue at hand.

An old expression applies here......."If the shoe fits, WEAR it! :dancing:

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #17 on:** September 08, 2011, 06:04:13 PM »

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He twisted my statement to imply I advocate venial sins.

No he didn't. As for calling you ignorant, I only did so because you are -- at least on the point of the sinful nature of vulgarity, in se.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #18 on:** September 08, 2011, 06:08:38 PM »

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Mere vulgarity and actual obscenity are TWO things -- thus, two different words. Profanity is using a sacred word (the Holy Name of Jesus, for example) in a way that is...PROFANE :)

Take all admonitions from God and His Saints seriously; just make sure they apply to the issue at hand.

An old expression applies here......."If the shoe fits, WEAR it! :dancing:

Gee, that's funny :)

Unfortunately, I already know the facts with respect to this issue...although it seems you do not. No biggie...

If you have anything of substance to contribute, I encourage you to do so.

insidebaseball · « **Reply #19 on:** September 08, 2011, 06:43:32 PM »

Oh sh-- I forgot what I was going to say. Forget about it.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #20 on:** September 08, 2011, 06:57:39 PM »

gunfighter said: "I could come up with clever names for you, but at my age it would reflect badly upon myself."

However, you seem to have no qualms speaking about things of which you are ignorant. :scratchchin: Strange hang-ups you have, gunslinger...

insidebaseball · « **Reply #21 on:** September 08, 2011, 06:57:51 PM »

Sorry about that. Ofcourse we should consider the audience before we speak. God hears everything!

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #22 on:** September 08, 2011, 07:17:09 PM »

From Hell (p.170), by T.A. Nelson:

"Vulgarity is the use of gross, impolite, or socially unacceptable terms or expressions or terms and includes the words 'damn' and 'Hell'... "

and, it continues...

"Vulgarity is considered by Catholic theologians to be...NO SIN AT ALL..."

[Emphasis mine - g_v]

SJB · « **Reply #23 on:** September 08, 2011, 07:52:48 PM »

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Saints are not sinless, so quoting St. Thomas does not mean his speech was not sinful. That being said, using vulgar terms are usually only venial sins. That does not mean that they are proper for civil conversation.

Venial sins are NEVER proper in any situation, regardless of the audience and setting. I think you need to do some research on this question as you appear to be giving us your entirely uniformed opinion.

The operative term was "usually."

It sounds like you think vulgarity is ALWAYS a sin, just not always mortal, usually only a small sin, venial. My point was if vulgarity was always at least a venial sin, it could NEVER be justified under any circuмstances.

gunfighter · « **Reply #24 on:** September 08, 2011, 08:02:23 PM »

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Saints are not sinless, so quoting St. Thomas does not mean his speech was not sinful. That being said, using vulgar terms are usually only venial sins. That does not mean that they are proper for civil conversation.

Venial sins are NEVER proper in any situation, regardless of the audience and setting. I think you need to do some research on this question as you appear to be giving us your entirely uniformed opinion.

The operative term was "usually."

It sounds like you think vulgarity is ALWAYS a sin, just not always mortal, usually only a small sin, venial. My point was if vulgarity was always at least a venial sin, it could NEVER be justified under any circuмstances.

Regardless of what it sounds like to you, it is not what I wrote or meant.

SJB · « **Reply #25 on:** September 08, 2011, 08:04:12 PM »

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Saints are not sinless, so quoting St. Thomas does not mean his speech was not sinful. That being said, using vulgar terms are usually only venial sins. That does not mean that they are proper for civil conversation.

Venial sins are NEVER proper in any situation, regardless of the audience and setting. I think you need to do some research on this question as you appear to be giving us your entirely uniformed opinion.

The operative term was "usually."

It sounds like you think vulgarity is ALWAYS a sin, just not always mortal, usually only a small sin, venial. My point was if vulgarity was always at least a venial sin, it could NEVER be justified under any circuмstances.

Regardless of what it sounds like to you, it is not what I wrote or meant.

Then at least you agree it is not always sinful.

gunfighter · « **Reply #26 on:** September 08, 2011, 11:04:59 PM »

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gunfighter said: "I could come up with clever names for you, but at my age it would reflect badly upon myself."

However, you seem to have no qualms speaking about things of which you are ignorant. :scratchchin: Strange hang-ups you have, gunslinger...

Eamon, I doubt if you would be so insulting in person. Most internet tough guys like you are cowards. It is much easier to write than fight. Most look like this guy, is this you(see no AK so it is not a cheap shot)?

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #27 on:** September 09, 2011, 08:21:16 AM »

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Eamon, I doubt if you would be so insulting in person.

As I have already said, I think we'd probably get along quite well in person. FWIW, pointing out that you are wrong on this point -- which is as clear as day, as is your avoidance of this fact -- is not meant as an insult.

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Most internet tough guys like you are cowards.

You may be right, but that is not really ad rem, is it? [BTW, isn't your comment kind of 'Internet-Tough-Guy-ish'? Should we presume, therefore, that you are really a very chunky monkey with no actual courage? I, for one, would not do so...]

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It is much easier to write than fight. Most look like this guy, is this you?

Nope...6'3", 200, strong as a bull, although not presently in THE best shape of my life. Still, you may rest assured I am no donut-loving Michelin Man :)

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #28 on:** September 09, 2011, 08:30:33 AM »

GV,

Glad to see you are still spreading your humility world-wide. :cool:

Is it me or does GV tend to get in knock down drag-outs with just about everyone?

Gladius v. Tele

Gladius v. gunfighter

Gladius v. Caminus

Gladius v. Me

Gladius vs. Random first time poster

We should start a subforum called "Gladius vs. _____".

Every new poster can wander into the subforum, have GV call them out, insult them, brag about his physical prowess, and challenge them to a fight. It would be like a rite of initiation into Cath Info. If they survive they can then go on to post on other subforums.

I'm waiting for GV to change his avatar to him shirtless with a photoshopped six pack and ammo strapped across his chest like Rambo with the caption "You wanna piece of me?"

GV, I saw your video post on here and I must say I was impressed and a bit shocked that, in person (and sober) you seem like a mild mannered very nice and reasonable gentleman. But your online persona has become something akin to the Hulk rather than your video Bruce Banner.

In any case, I pray you can tone it down a little and exorcise the demons of anger and frustration that seem to haunt you.

Godspeed, my friend! :cheers:

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #29 on:** September 09, 2011, 08:34:31 AM »

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Most look like this guy, is this you(see no AK so it is not a cheap shot)?

Well, it could easily be construed as a different cheap shot, no? Some might even (mis?)construe it as "juvenile banter"? FWIW, you seem to be admitting that your AK comments WERE cheap shots, not that a few cheaps shots here and there is a big deal to me. The whole thing is so wild that we ought, IMO, to have a little fun with it, even if the fun is sometimes at my expense (so to speak).

Have a peaceful and profitable weekend, gunslinger