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Transgender students 'unknowingly' admitted to Catholic seminaries
« on: September 30, 2021, 09:51:11 PM »
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    Transgender students 'unknowingly' admitted to Catholic seminaries, archbishop warns

    https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/249129/transgender-catholic-seminarians-archbishop-listecki#


    Christine RousselleJoe Bukuras
    By Christine RousselleJoe Bukuras
    Washington, D.C. Newsroom, Sep 29, 2021 / 09:03 am
    Bishops should consider requiring DNA tests or physical examinations to ensure that all seminarians are biological men, said Milwaukee Archbishop Jerome Listecki in a recent memo sent to the members of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB).
    “Recently, the Committee on Canonical Affairs and Church Governance was made aware of instances where it had been discovered that a woman living under a transgendered identity had been unknowingly admitted to the seminary or to a house of formation of an institute of consecrated life,” said the memo. Listecki is the chairman of the USCCB’s canonical affairs committee.
    In one case, said Listecki, “the individual’s sacramental records had been fraudulently obtained to reflect her new identity.”
    “In all instances, nothing in these individuals’ medical or psychological reports had signaled past treatments or pertinent surgeries,” he added. None of the biologically female seminarians received Holy Orders, said Listecki.


    The archbishop’s memo does not identify which seminaries or houses of formation have enrolled a biological female who presented herself as a male, nor was it clarified if these “instances” occurred in the United States or elsewhere. Rocco Palmo, who writes the blog Whispers in the Loggia, first reported the memo via Twitter on Sept. 23
    While a Catholic baptism certificate typically does not indicate the sex of the person being baptized, other Christian denominations have invited people identifying as transgender to re-affirm their baptismal promises under their new, chosen, name.
    The archbishop said that he was “encouraged by the Committee” to send the memo to his brother bishops, so that they could “exercise special vigilance as a new year of seminary formation begins.”
    Listecki, a doctor of canon law, noted that “canon law requires the diocesean bishop to admit to the major seminary and to promote to Holy Orders only men who possess the requisite physical and psychological qualities,” and that the bishop “can require various means to establish moral certitude in this regard.”
    The memo continues: “Some members of the Committee on Canonical Affairs and Church Governance observed that a bishop could consider requiring a D.N.A. test or, at a minimum, certification from a medical expert of the bishop’s own choosing, to assure that an applicant is male.”
    The USCCB declined to comment on the contents of the memo. You can read the full memo below.

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    Re: Transgender students 'unknowingly' admitted to Catholic seminaries
    « Reply #1 on: September 30, 2021, 09:55:19 PM »
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  • There mere fact that this is how far things have fallen in the Novus Ordo is why I avoid it entirely.
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    Re: Transgender students 'unknowingly' admitted to Catholic seminaries
    « Reply #2 on: September 30, 2021, 09:58:08 PM »
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    The USCCB declined to comment on the contents of the memo.

    Which means they'll do nothing about it.



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    Re: Transgender students 'unknowingly' admitted to Catholic seminaries
    « Reply #3 on: September 30, 2021, 11:50:50 PM »
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  • Unsurprising altogether, I mean they put sodomites in the seminaries and there is a push for priestesses so this is a logical conclusion.
    Regard all of my posts as unfounded slander, heresy, theologically specious etc
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    Re: Transgender students 'unknowingly' admitted to Catholic seminaries
    « Reply #4 on: October 01, 2021, 09:39:17 AM »
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    Re: Transgender students 'unknowingly' admitted to Catholic seminaries
    « Reply #5 on: October 01, 2021, 09:42:52 AM »
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  • Is this a woman who has not aged particularly well, or someone born a man, who is either cross-dressing, or is at some place within the continuum of being given the anatomical simulation of being a woman?

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    Re: Transgender students 'unknowingly' admitted to Catholic seminaries
    « Reply #6 on: October 01, 2021, 09:49:45 AM »
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  • Which means they'll do nothing about it.



    Coming to a Novus Ordo Church near you.
    At least there would be no question as to whether they had valid holy orders or not.

    This "person", just from this picture, could credibly be either female or male, a kind of epicene-looking male, to be sure, but still a male.  Many men wear earrings.  Not my thing, just stating the fact.

    I renewed my driver's license the other day, and the picture makes me look either like a retarded person or a goon.  I go more for the buzzcut and modest facial hair myself.  I certainly hope I don't ever go missing and have the police post this picture to the media looking for me.

    Looks pretty dykey to me.  That doohickey hanging around "her" (?) neck, at first blush, looked like a West Virginia University logo, but now I see that it is that bi-gendered thing.


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    Re: Transgender students 'unknowingly' admitted to Catholic seminaries
    « Reply #7 on: October 01, 2021, 10:55:40 AM »
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  • Is this a woman who has not aged particularly well, or someone born a man, who is either cross-dressing, or is at some place within the continuum of being given the anatomical simulation of being a woman?
    :laugh2: It's a man. Lutheran.
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