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Re: Transalpine Declaration Regarding Upcoming Episcopal Consecration
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2026, 09:29:54 PM »
When was this letter written?  I can't believe that Bishop Roy would still be intent upon going through with this ...

I might have to confer with some sources about spilling some beans here.

So, it's an extreme scandal that Bishop Roy has poor enough judgment to consecrate a guy who CLEARLY hasn't been acting upon principle, but only based on how he and his group are affected.  This was educated guess on my part right out of the gate (but highly probable), but later I received additional confirmation of this guess.  There's little doubt about that now.

He spent 11 years under Bergoglio's daily heresy, Amoris Laetitia, Fiducia Supplicans, without a peep, and then waited another year through an appeal after his bishop ordered them shut down, and only after the Vatican rejected the appeal and ordered them shut down did he suddenly "see the light ... Hallelujah!" that the See is vacant, after a dozen years denouncing those who held that before.

That alone exposes +Roy for terrible judgment.

But there's much, much more.  Just like Urrutigoity used to claim that he was persecuted for being against sedevacantism (as if any priets, SV or otherwise, would ever commit the grave mortal sin of slandering him with such allegations just because he oppose sedevacantism ... terrible judgement there by Bishop Williamson), similarly ... everyone needs to look into why the NO bishop was actually investigating them and ordered them shut down.  HINT:  no, it was not because they were Trad.  And the "exorcism" thing was only part of it.

Shame on Bishop Roy if he intends to go through with it !

If some at his group should be ordained, they could just call in a bishop.
It was published on July 8, 2026 on their blog: https://papastronsay.blogspot.com/2026/07/declaration-concerning-upcoming.html

Yes I agree it is a scandalous consecration. They got into trouble in Christchurch because they were conducting unauthorized exorcisms on minors. See https://cathnews.com/2024/07/17/religious-order-stripped-of-authority-over-unauthorised-exorcisms/ and then decided to embrace sedevacantism because they were called out on that! You simply don't use harnesses to bind children even when conducting 'minor exorcisms' as claimed.  I heard that there was a priest who left them many years back, because the superior told all of them during a pilgrimage to Lourdes to take a dip in the spring waters even though that was not allowed by the shrine authorities, and as an act of protest, to swim in the streams instead. :facepalm:

Back when they were still associated with the SSPX, there was a scandalous article in their newspaper, promoting some strange devotion using small cut-out images of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour that readers ought to cut out, mix into water and drink it like some magic concoction.


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Re: Transalpine Declaration Regarding Upcoming Episcopal Consecration
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2026, 06:18:23 PM »
They got into trouble in Christchurch because they were conducting unauthorized exorcisms on minors. ...  Back when they were still associated with the SSPX, there was a scandalous article in their newspaper, promoting some strange devotion using small cut-out images of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour that readers ought to cut out, mix into water and drink it like some magic concoction.

Yes, and there was quite a bit more than the exorcisms on minors.  As the time gets closer ... I will confer with my source about releasing more.

As I mentioned ... the MERE FACT that it was obvious to me even before these other things came out that they clearly only decided to become sedevacantists because Rome wanted to shut them down, and it should have been obvious to anyone else, that Bishop Roy would have the terrible judgment to consecrate someone like that, that's bad enough, but the tragic fact is that if he were to consecrate him, that would in fact likely encourage more young men to enter his group ... and I'm going to have to say something fairly soon.

See, here's the thing.  I know for a fact that my source (a higly credible and well-respected invidual) informed Bishop Roy directly, and even the intial response from Bishop Roy I found to be nothing short of stunning, but the fact that even after that he shows no signs of backing out ... this must be stopped, and if it's only by publicly bringing forth this information, then it's too late and Bishop Roy must be treated as if he had gone ahead with them, competely discredited and, in an informal sense obvious, "vitandus".

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Re: Transalpine Declaration Regarding Upcoming Episcopal Consecration
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2026, 06:20:38 PM »
I second your opinion that this is a mistake.

This Redemptorists group has a history of scandal and while it might look good tactically, it will discredit the young Bishop in the end.

Does anyone have direct contact with Bp. Roy?

He should be advised that further vetting of the consecration candidate is in order.

Bishop Roy has in fact been informed about these matters by my source.

There's a bit of mystique around the group because of the whole "island" thing and their over-the-top costumes and whatnot that they've develped a bit of a "teflon" aura about them.

There are many other far more worthy candidates out there.

Re: Transalpine Declaration Regarding Upcoming Episcopal Consecration
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2026, 06:47:51 PM »
I second your opinion that this is a mistake.

This Redemptorists group has a history of scandal and while it might look good tactically, it will discredit the young Bishop in the end.

Does anyone have direct contact with Bp. Roy?

He should be advised that further vetting of the consecration candidate is in order.

After the conclave initiative and his friendship with Bp. da Silva, Bp. Roy needs nothing more to be discredited. This upcoming fiasco will be just the final nail on his coffin.