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Offline Lover of Truth

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« on: February 22, 2010, 09:06:36 AM »
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    • The "traditional" "new" "pontiff"? That's quite a phrase. Traditional? There's nothing "traditional" about denying the nature of dogmatic truth and entering ѕуηαgσgυєs and mosques, calling them "holy" or "sacred" places, and esteeming the symbols and "values" of one false religion after another, including what the hardly "new" (nearly five years now) false "pontiff" did in Washington, District of Columbia, itself, on Thursday, April 17, 2008, as he personally esteemed the symbols of five false religions (see April 17, 2008 - 6:15 p.m. - Interreligious Gathering) something that millions upon millions of Catholic martyrs submitted themselves to unspeakable acts of torture and death rather than to give even the appearance of consenting to of their own free wills.

    Pope Pius XII made this abundantly clear in Ci Riesce, an allocution given to Italian lawyers on December 6, 1953:

    Her deportment has not changed in the course of history, nor can it change whenever or wherever, under the most diversified forms, she is confronted with the choice: either incense for idols or blood for Christ. The place where you are now present, Eternal Rome, with the remains of a greatness that was and with the glorious memories of its martyrs, is the most eloquent witness to the answer of the Church. Incense was not burned before the idols, and Christian blood flowed and consecrated the ground. But the temples of the gods lie in the cold devastation of ruins howsoever majestic; while at the tombs of the martyrs the faithful of all nations and all tongues fervently repeat the ancient Creed of the Apostles. (Pope Pius XII, Ci Riesce, December 6, 1953.)

    By Tom Droleskey
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    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 10:01:45 AM »
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    • is this going to become a 100+ post thread too?

    also, he keep quoting and pasting quotes, it gets hard to read and often loses most of us that have-apparently, far less time to read and research......

    also, at least for me, Drolesky is not too welcomed....guy gets his career locked in, builds up on it and then, what, around age 50 guy becomes a Trad and decides to have a child.....

    Dont get me wrong, gald he is home schooling said child, glad he had her and is raising her...etc....but a bit Johnny come lately, lecturing the rest of us......also, easy to complain when one can travel the roads in ones RV......what about the rest of us that are fairly set in place and trying our best......

    again, Kudos to him for finally marrying and bring forth children, but a bit more humility, a bit less blsuter to him......

    LoT-are you he? or a associate?
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    « Reply #2 on: February 23, 2010, 10:25:14 AM »
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    • I'm certainly not he, as he would not lower himself to this level by posting on this blog.

    BTW - Is everyone aware that we judge in the external forum and a heretical act is enough to show that one is a heretic unless he makes a Catholic excuse for that act.

    A heretical act would be not genuflecting before the tabernacle.  If such a person explained that he had a bad knee but certainly believes in the Real Presence he would be justified.

    Other heretical acts would include receiving items of false religions with esteem, worshipping with the protestants, worshipping with the Jєωs, worshipping with the orthodox, worshipping with the muslims and worshipping with the anglicans.

    I haven't caught where Ratzinger said they hypnotized me and I have no idea what I am doing when I do that stuff.

    He then would have to make clear that no Catholic can worship with heretics as the valid Catholic Popes have done.

    I write, not expecting anyone to understand, but so I can not be accused of being silent in the face of ignorance.
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    « Reply #3 on: February 23, 2010, 10:27:47 AM »
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    • yack yack yack.....what happened to the monitored work place?? family needing you, maybe right now?? yack yack

    again, you write expecting us not to understand? what are we, dumb hicks?

    why are you here, when Matthew is not a Sede? if we are so bad, maybe another forum is more for you?.....whats that I hear, oops, family likely calling you!

    odd, your attempt to share truth has rather backfired, no?
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    « Reply #4 on: February 23, 2010, 10:29:52 AM »
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    yack yack yack.....what happened to the monitored work place?? family needing you, maybe right now?? yack yack

    again, you write expecting us not to understand? what are we, dumb hicks?

    why are you here, when Matthew is not a Sede? if we are so bad, maybe another forum is more for you?.....whats that I hear, oops, family likely calling you!

    odd, your attempt to share truth has rather backfired, no?


    I ask all to include Belloc in your prayers.  He seems to be having a bad day.  I'm assuming he is not always like this.
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    « Reply #5 on: February 23, 2010, 10:37:11 AM »
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    • day is busy, but I am fine-thanks for patronizing..

    again, thought you were monitored and family needs you?

    No, for most, not like this.but you have shown yourself as rude and arrogant.see other posts.so, you are treated that way...a dog that is friendly is nice, a dog that bites me deserves my boot...

    if you are that angry-and it appears from your threads and copiuos posts you are-maybe you need the prayers......

    so, stop the posturing, arrogance and your vain attempt at patronizing.....most ehre that do more than cut/paste know the difference.......

    hark, is that monitoring I hear? or a baby crying for its parent?

    btw,who are you, really?
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    « Reply #6 on: February 23, 2010, 07:54:36 PM »
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    • Lover_of_Truth said:
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    I'm certainly not he, as he would not lower himself to this level by posting on this blog.


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    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 23, 2010, 08:15:28 PM »
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    • You are under some kind of spell, LoT.  Thomas Droleskey is a very intelligent man but at least six people here are more advanced in theology than he is -- gladius, Caminus, Ladislaus, Jamie, CM, Telesphorus -- and don't consider themselves too good to post here.  That kind of comment won't help him, since it seems to me he has a problem listening to others, and wants to be the "star" of the crisis.  

    I will say that it is a mark of humility to have a doctorate in political science and then to adopt the honest "all politics is rigged" position that pretty much repudiates his entire life history and all that he knew.  For that, I will give credit where credit is due.  But there is always more work to be done on pride.

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    « Reply #8 on: February 24, 2010, 01:51:53 PM »
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    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church
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