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Traditional abbey to be lost to the Novus Ordo?
« on: January 14, 2011, 09:09:03 AM »
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  • Yes, pinch me because I must be dreaming. Indeed I'm posting something from Traditio.

    Christ the King Traditional Benedictine Abbey, in Cullman, Alabama
    With the Death of Its Abbot on January 9, 2011
    It Has Become the Target of Theft by Novus Ordo Usurpers
    The Local Traditional Community Laments, but Does Nothing
    If They Lose the Abbey in the Next Few Days, It Will Be Only Their Own Fault
    Traditional Catholics Must Fight For the Faith -- or They Will Surely Lose It
    The TRADITIO Network has received an unconfirmed report that two Novus-Ordo infiltrators, Michael and Sebastian, posing as traditional monks at the traditional Benedictine Christ the King Abbey, of Cullman, Alabama, have taken over the abbey and expelled the only remaining traditional priest, Fr. Bernard. It appears that Novus Ordo usurpers have seized upon their opportunity with the staunchly-traditional Father Abbot Leonard Giardina ill since October 2010, then dying on January 8, 2011, to steal the abbey for the Novus Ordo. The past and current Newchurch bishops of Birmingham, David Foley and Robert Baker, been drooling over this possibility for several years now, and the Abbot told them both to go pound sand: he would have nothing to do with the New Order and its gauleiters.
    As recently as 2010, Newbishop Baker tried to get the Abbot to sell out, but he refused. The poor Abbot's body wasn't even cold when, it seems, Novus Ordo usurpers, possibly taking their marching orders from the Novus Ordo sect, put into place their takeover plan. Who knows whether they were plants for Newbishops Foley and Baker all along?
    This attempted coup of a traditional abbey for the Novus Ordo may not yet be a fait accompli, but time is of the essence. The local traditional community can lose the abbey in just a matter of days. If the abbey is taken over by the Newchurch of the New Order, they will ask how it happened. The way it always happens: the locals became pusillanimous, refusing to stand up for their rights, to confront the usurpers, and to fight them tooth and nail. The locals could take a page out of the book of the Newchurchers whose churches were to be shut down by the New Order: they conducted a 24-hour vigil in their churches to prevent the pretenders from taking over.
    The local traditional community must immediately become a Tea Party for Traditional Catholicism! Instead, reports to the TRADITIO Network indicate that the locals are listening to spokesmen for the Novus Ordo usurpers, who are mouthing the usual Modernistic/Liberalistic line to be quiet, to pray, not to speak out, not to do anything, just wait and see what happens. Of course, that's their line. While the locals are waiting cowering, like the Apostles after the arrest of Christ, the hypocritical usurpers can complete their theft of the abbey!
    And then the locals will lament why God allowed this to happen. God didn't. He gave the locals many tools with which to defend the traditional Catholic Faith. They just don't use them. Prayer and action are two sides of the same Catholic coin. Christ was a man of action. He never said only to pray and do nothing. Rather, he said: "But he that shall do and teach, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:19/DRV).
    The penalty for inaction is high. If the locals lose their traditional abbey, they will have only themselves to blame, as they ignored the warning of St. Peter himself, repeated every night at the traditional Hour of Compline:

        Sobrii estote, et vigilate: quia adversarius vester diabolus tamquam leo rugiens circuit, quærens quem devoret (1 Peter 5:8/DRV)
        Be sober and watch: because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, goeth about seeking whom he may devour.

    St. Peter's description as of the Newchurch of the New Order could not be more on target. The docuмented record is clear. Not only does Benedict-Ratzinger and his Newchurch clergy have the morals of a pig-stye, but they are thieves as well. Newarchbishop Rembert Weakland, of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, stole half a million dollars out of the Newchurch collection-plate to pay hush-money to his catamite. Newarchbishop Raymond Burke, of St. Louis, Missouri, tried to steal the independently-chartered St. Stanislaus Kostka Church, worth 12,000,000 dollars. Newchurch connived to steal St. Anthony of Padua Church, of West Orange, New Jersey, away from traditional priest Fr. Paul Wickens as he lay dying.
    Good Catholics, the obvious conclusion from all the evidence is that Benedict-Ratzinger and his Newchurch clergy are not only immoral, but sneaky and not above fraud and theft. Traditional Catholics have got to get off their duffs and fight for their churches or, like more and more temples of the Newchurch of the New Order, their traditional churches will be slammed shut and locked forever.
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    Traditional abbey to be lost to the Novus Ordo?
    « Reply #1 on: January 14, 2011, 09:13:53 AM »
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  • I'm posting this A) because it's important Trad news, and B) it illustrates the grave danger in going the "independent" route.

    So you found a great Independent priest -- Great! Good for you. What happens when he dies? ...

    ...



    At least in the SSPX you can count on continuity. The building is owned by the SSPX; no one is going to conspire, have a "coup" or infiltrate and steal the building 2 years later.

    The priests in the SSPX vary in holiness, prudence, etc. (of course -- they're human) but they are all VERY similar when it comes to the Faith they preach, the confessions they hear, and the Mass they say. They all act like they're part of the same religion -- that's a good thing.

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    Traditional abbey to be lost to the Novus Ordo?
    « Reply #2 on: January 14, 2011, 09:18:37 AM »
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  • You know, this story hits pretty close to home for me, as does the Ode thread.

    Did you know that I used to attend an Independent chapel for over 23 years?
    And that when I started looking into a vocation, my priest gave me three options?

    A) Go to Bishop Sanborn's seminary
    B) Go to the monastery in Cullman, AL
    C) Go to the SSPX seminary in Winona, MN

    To me, they were all valid options, since I had no experience with any group. Fortunately the Blessed Mother was taking care of me, because Bishop Williamson got back to me first, and he invited me to join the seminary -- I accepted. Then a couple weeks later I got the "packet" in the mail from the other seminary.

    Providence!

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    Traditional abbey to be lost to the Novus Ordo?
    « Reply #3 on: January 14, 2011, 01:33:48 PM »
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  • Well, things do change, not only in Rome, Menzingen or in independent chapels. There are no guarantees on earth and for fifty years tradition has been better served at the independent end than at the Roman end. And if that is not enough to convince people, watch what Rome is going to have in store for wishful-thinkers and 'doctrinal talkers'! A complete break with Rome and the new order will be a mark of true courage and depth of faith. No more una cuмs; no more SSPX uncertainty; no more "elder brethren", no more Assisi "mystery".