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Offline DigitalLogos

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Re: TRADISMATIC!!!
« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2021, 08:41:35 AM »
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  • Charismatic practice goes right in the face of what St. John of the Cross, and others, said you SHOULD NOT do when it comes to locutions.


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    3. There is always ground for fear that they proceed from the devil rather than from God; for the devil has more influence in that which is exterior and corporeal, and can more easily deceive us therein than in what is more interior. And these bodily forms and objects, the more exterior they are, the less do they profit the interior spiritual man, by reason of the great distance and disproportion subsisting between the corporeal and the spiritual. For, although these things communicate some spirituality, as is always the case when they proceed from God, yet it is much less than it would have been, had they been more spiritual and interior; and thus they become more easily and readily occasions of error, presumption, and vanity. As they are so palpable and so material they excite the senses greatly, and the soul is led to consider them the more important, the more they are felt. It runs after them and abandons the secure guidance of faith, thinking that the light they give is a guide and means to that which it desires, union with God. Thus the soul, the more it makes of such things, the more it strays from the perfect way and means, that is, the faith. Besides, when the soul perceives itself subject to these extraordinary visitations, self-esteem very frequently enters in, and it thinks itself to be some thing in the eyes of God, which is contrary to humility. The devil also knows too well how to insinuate into the soul a secret, and sometimes an open, self-satisfaction. For this end he frequently presents to the eyes the forms of saints, and most beautiful lights; he causes voices well dissembled to strike the ear, and delicious odours the smell; he produces sweetness in the mouth, and thrills of pleasure in the sense of touch; and all to make us long for such things that he may lead us astray into much evil.
    -St. John of the Cross, Ascent of Mt. Carmel, ch. XI

    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: TRADISMATIC!!!
    « Reply #17 on: March 07, 2022, 03:43:12 PM »
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  • https://www.firstthings.com/article/2022/03/tradismatic-trentecostalism
    They are sending people who are trying to lead truly Catholic lives right back into the spiritual gutter with this stuff. :facepalm:
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: TRADISMATIC!!!
    « Reply #18 on: March 08, 2022, 12:02:29 AM »
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  • Charismatics actually believe in the supernatural. They are much better than normie Catholics. Even though it seems strange when they lift up their arms and bark like dogs after the consecration, it shows that they really believe in the real presence.

    Yes, they do believe in the supernatural. But then so do New-Agers. Barking like dogs after the consecration is not normal. Far from it.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29