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« on: October 25, 2013, 07:01:16 AM »
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  • I was thinking how John was associated with the Dimond brothers and was SV but is not anymore but very strongly anti-SV in his public stance whatever the reason.  After spending time with the brothers would be anti-whatever they were seeing there teaching on salvation and complete lack of charity.  I'm surprised he did not leave the faith completely if he thought they really represent the Catholic Church.

    I agree that they have some good stuff out and are right about many things though.  And their research is also good and well presented most of the time.  

    I think they prevented me from be SV sooner than I did.  As a nordite I thought they were what traditional Catholics were.  I thought all traditionalists were their clones.

    Alot proved to be angry and uncharitable and ignorant and dishonest but not to the extreme that they are.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #1 on: October 25, 2013, 09:39:58 AM »
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    I was thinking how John was associated with the Dimond brothers and was SV but is not anymore but very strongly anti-SV in his public stance whatever the reason.  After spending time with the brothers would be anti-whatever they were seeing there teaching on salvation and complete lack of charity.  I'm surprised he did not leave the faith completely if he thought they really represent the Catholic Church.

    I agree that they have some good stuff out and are right about many things though.  And their research is also good and well presented most of the time.  

    I think they prevented me from be SV sooner than I did.  As a nordite I thought they were what traditional Catholics were.  I thought all traditionalists were their clones.

    Alot proved to be angry and uncharitable and ignorant and dishonest but not to the extreme that they are.


    Sorry to barge in on your thread, but it was a public thread and not a PM, so people can see it.
    ...Are you saying that you knew the dimonds or spent time with them?
    Who is this "john" character?
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    « Reply #2 on: October 25, 2013, 11:13:53 AM »
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    I was thinking how John was associated with the Dimond brothers and was SV but is not anymore but very strongly anti-SV in his public stance whatever the reason.  After spending time with the brothers would be anti-whatever they were seeing there teaching on salvation and complete lack of charity.  I'm surprised he did not leave the faith completely if he thought they really represent the Catholic Church.

    I agree that they have some good stuff out and are right about many things though.  And their research is also good and well presented most of the time.  

    I think they prevented me from be SV sooner than I did.  As a nordite I thought they were what traditional Catholics were.  I thought all traditionalists were their clones.

    Alot proved to be angry and uncharitable and ignorant and dishonest but not to the extreme that they are.


    Sorry to barge in on your thread, but it was a public thread and not a PM, so people can see it.
    ...Are you saying that you knew the dimonds or spent time with them?
    Who is this "john" character?
     :reporter:


    John Vennarri.  A good knowledgeable writer, who does good research but turns into an idiot when discussing SV.  It is a pet issue that he has closed his mind to completely, for whatever reason, facts be damned.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #3 on: October 28, 2013, 04:57:16 PM »
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  • Most Holy Family Monastery says a lot of good things, but the way in which they present things really destroys all of their efforts. They IMMEDIATELY without asking a few simple questions are able to magically discern you are of bad will in a minute. How they do know this? Ohh well the tens of thousands of people, and by some special God given grace the ability to read the hearts of men. They immediately call you a heretic to the point where the word loses its meaning...

    Saint Thomas talks about prudence, and these people definitely lack this big time. Sometimes you are not supposed to talk about God, if you know for certain that it will only cause people to blaspheme His Holy Name. This does not mean you lack faith or true charity, it simply means that you have to choose your battles. If you know for certain it will only get everyone in the room extremely angry and do absolutely no good, then by all means find another time to do things in more private.

    Yes, Most Holy Family Monastery is what kept me from becoming Sedevacantist for a VERY long time... Trust me man my whole life would be different if I would have been a sede since my early days... It is truly a grace from God, blessed be those who see it.
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    « Reply #4 on: October 28, 2013, 05:06:54 PM »
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  • I just watched this video by John Vennari (right after Francis' latest interview) and thought he had a lot of great thoughts, but I noticed that he never goes as far as saying the "H" word when speaking of Francis and his contradictions to Traditional Catholic teaching.  Why not call a spade a spade rather than talking around an issue (like Vatican II documents)?

    One thing he mentions early on that I found fascinating was about Francis' use of the media....that he chooses to go straight to the public without having to write encyclicals that would be openly contrary to Traditional Catholic teaching.



    Who is this guy?
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    « Reply #5 on: October 28, 2013, 05:11:37 PM »
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    I was thinking how John was associated with the Dimond brothers and was SV but is not anymore but very strongly anti-SV in his public stance whatever the reason.  After spending time with the brothers would be anti-whatever they were seeing there teaching on salvation and complete lack of charity.  I'm surprised he did not leave the faith completely if he thought they really represent the Catholic Church.

    I agree that they have some good stuff out and are right about many things though.  And their research is also good and well presented most of the time.  

    I think they prevented me from be SV sooner than I did.  As a nordite I thought they were what traditional Catholics were.  I thought all traditionalists were their clones.

    Alot proved to be angry and uncharitable and ignorant and dishonest but not to the extreme that they are.


    They are, unfortunately, the stereotypical SV's and I think do more harm than good to the SV position.
    If any one saith, that the ceremonies, vestments, and outward signs, which the Catholic Church makes use of in the celebration of masses, are incentives to impiety, rather than offices of piety; let him be anathema. - Council of Trent

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    « Reply #6 on: October 28, 2013, 06:01:38 PM »
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  • I wasn't aware that he ever held the sedevacantist position.

    He's a good man, I have a lot of respect for him.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 29, 2013, 01:02:42 AM »
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    I wasn't aware that he ever held the sedevacantist position.

    He's a good man, I have a lot of respect for him.


    This is why he is the only one that never got swayed by anti Pope Benedict XVI's claims and "niceness." I guess his past made him immune to such things, and I certainly pray that he might make Catholic Family News much more rigorist in its approach to the heretical claimants and the Conciliar Church. Ora Ora Ora.
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    « Reply #8 on: October 29, 2013, 10:00:15 AM »
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  • John Vennari was never sedevacantist. MHFM became sedevacantist after John left, Br. Joseph died and Fred Dimond took over.
    I am sincerely sorry for any gossip, detraction, libel, slander, calumny, rumors, heresy, schism, false information, lies or half-truths which may have appeared in my posts. May God forgive me.

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    « Reply #9 on: October 29, 2013, 11:08:16 PM »
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    John Vennari was never sedevacantist. MHFM became sedevacantist after John left, Br. Joseph died and Fred Dimond took over.


    Thanks for the clarification, I heard that Br. Joseph was quite apocalyptic does anyone have any recorded talks of his? Just wondering what sort of history is behind MHFM.
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    « Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 11:55:41 AM »
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    I just watched this video by John Vennari (right after Francis' latest interview) and thought he had a lot of great thoughts, but I noticed that he never goes as far as saying the "H" word when speaking of Francis and his contradictions to Traditional Catholic teaching.  Why not call a spade a spade rather than talking around an issue (like Vatican II documents)?

    One thing he mentions early on that I found fascinating was about Francis' use of the media....that he chooses to go straight to the public without having to write encyclicals that would be openly contrary to Traditional Catholic teaching.



    Who is this guy?


    For some reason John V.  has drawn a conclusion first - SV can't be possible, and then makes everything "fit" that conclusion.  

    He has heretical ideas

    He acts like a heretic

    He does not teach heresy ex cathedra

    He has a heretical mindset

    But he cannot allow himself to call him a heretic plain and simple because the fact of SV is something he will not accept.  The state of the Church has to be for any other reason than that.  That is why I don't pay much attention to him at all unless someone else points me in his direction.  

    He appears to be intellectually dishonest on the topic.  Ultimately he may not be as I cannot know for sure the inner working of his mind.  But he appears to be intellectually dishonest on this one topic.  For whatever reason.

    But it is clear he realizes that if he admits these guys are public heretics he "admits too much" for what he is willing to accept.  He knows as well as any SV that a public heretic cannot be Pope.  
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


     

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