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Online Ladislaus

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Re: To Sedes: Time's Running Out to Elect a New Pope!!!
« Reply #75 on: February 24, 2021, 08:16:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: Stubborn on February 24, 2021, 08:14:01 AM
    Since you have nothing else, resorting to calumny as per your usual, I understand you will never comprehend the truth, but I said:
    "The pope(s) is the authority whose duty it is to defend, preserve and promulgate all those teachings..."

    This is going beyond absurd.

    Stubborn:  the Pope is NOT the teacher
    Vatican I:  the Pope is the teacher

    It's a VERBATIM contradiction from the guy who claims that dogmas need to be believed AS WRITTEN.

    You're STILL denying the dogmatic teaching of Vatican I with this latest attempt to spin.  Now you're claiming that the Pope is merely the "promulgator" when Vatican I clearly, in a verbatim contradiction to what you wrote, declares that the pope is the TEACHER.
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    Re: To Sedes: Time's Running Out to Elect a New Pope!!!
    « Reply #76 on: February 24, 2021, 09:00:41 AM »
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    • Trying to get through to your edumacated brain is futile, but for others, from V1.......

    For the holy Spirit was promised to the successors of Peter not so that they might, by his revelation, make known some new doctrine, but that, by his assistance, they might religiously guard and faithfully expound the revelation or deposit of faith transmitted by the apostles...

    I am sure you do not get the above, which is what I said in not so many words, which to you it is heretical, but to continue....

    ...for they knew very well that this see of St. Peter always remains unblemished by any error, in accordance with the divine promise of our Lord and Saviour to the prince of his disciples....This gift of truth and never-failing faith was therefore divinely conferred on Peter and his successors...we judge it absolutely necessary to affirm solemnly the prerogative which the only-begotten Son of God was pleased to attach to the supreme pastoral office... we teach and define as a divinely revealed dogma that when the Roman pontiff speaks ex cathedra....

    V1 is not speaking in a general sense, rather they are speaking specifically about when the popes' faith will never fail. Namely, when he defines a doctrine ex cathedra. All you do is add whatever other additional infallibilies you think they forgot to mention.
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    Re: To Sedes: Time's Running Out to Elect a New Pope!!!
    « Reply #77 on: February 28, 2021, 08:54:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Walters on February 22, 2021, 12:50:02 AM
    I agree that such a person should be ignored, and I'm not defending Francis. I am not defending Francis of playing sick mental games. 
    If I am understanding your later posts correctly, you seem certain that Francis is the Pope. If this is correct, I am  curious as to why you don't see it as at least possible that he may not be? Thank you.
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    Patience is a conquering virtue. The learned say that, if it not desert you, It vanquishes what force can never reach; Why answer back at every angry speech? No, learn forbearance or, I'll tell you what, You will be taught it, whether you will or not.
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