Author Topic: To Sedes: Time's Running Out to Elect a New Pope!!! (Read 9940 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #50 on:** February 23, 2021, 07:35:18 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn on February 23, 2021, 04:33:40 AM

Of course you are correct here, it is the truth that matters because it is the truth that binds us, not the method. Nearly all of the truths we are bound to believe have never even been infallibly defined and we learned them from our immєdιαte teachers, not the pope.

Poster Drew explains it repeatedly in depth and in a clear and concise manner in this thread (in case you don't know who Drew is.)

Drew was debunked for fabricating theological principles out of thin air to replace Catholic ones ... to suit his agenda.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #51 on:** February 23, 2021, 07:37:00 AM »

Quote from: XavierSem on February 23, 2021, 07:33:05 AM

Well, the Perpetual Successors argument is not about numbers. It is about the dogmatic impossibility of going generations without a living Successor of Peter. Without Successors to St. Peter, the Church will eventually lose Successors to the Apostles, when every Bishop appointed by the last Pope dies. Thus the Church will lose Her Apostolicity and Her Four Marks.

You keep repeating this assertion, as if merely repeating it makes it true, but it has in fact been debunked from every possible angle.

Stubborn · « **Reply #52 on:** February 23, 2021, 07:39:19 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on February 23, 2021, 07:35:18 AM

Drew was debunked for fabricating theological principles out of thin air to replace Catholic ones ... to suit his agenda.

All you need to know is that his rule of faith remains the same forever. Yours? - not so much.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #53 on:** February 23, 2021, 07:40:27 AM »

Quote from: XavierSem on February 23, 2021, 07:33:05 AM

It's SVism that requires us to become our own theologians, and declare Popes recognized by the Apostolic Church to not be Popes ...

No, quite the contrary, it's R&R that requires people to become their own theologians, sifting the Magisterium, and determining for themselves which teachings of the Magisterium are true and which are false.

SVism on the other hand merely requires that someone recognize that this Conciliar Church lacks the marks of the Catholic Church. As Vatican I taught, there's a role for reason in recognizing the motives of credibility and then giving assent to that authority in the first place. We do not recognize the voice of the Shepherd in this Conciliar Abomination. Meanwhile, R&R claim that, yes, this is the voice of the Shepherd, but we'll decide when it's speaking truth and when it's not.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #54 on:** February 23, 2021, 08:45:14 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn on February 23, 2021, 07:39:19 AM

All you need to know is that his rule of faith remains the same forever. Yours? - not so much.

No, WHAT we believe remains the same. As Drew did, you conflate the object of faith with the rule of faith. This term was clearly defined with citations from theologians that debunked Drew's fake definitions.

Dogmas/Doctrines are the WHAT of faith, whereas the authority of the Magisterium is the WHY. Rule of Faith refers to the WHY, not the WHAT.

As St. Augustine wrote, "I would not accept the Scriptures themselves had the Church not proposed them to me."

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