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Offline Eternal Rome

Re: To Sedes: Time's Running Out to Elect a New Pope!!!
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2021, 04:51:47 PM »
Pope Leo X
You will firmly abide by the true decision of the Holy Roman Church and to this Holy See, which does not permit errors.

(Bull cuŠ¼ Postquam; Denz. 740b)

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I don't know the answer to the current predicament nor do I know how to understand Vatican II and the post-conciliar period. I am "agnostic" on the issue so to speak, but I have observed that many Recognize & Resist Catholics have a theology that has become borderline Gallican. 

Some dogmatic Sedevacantists on the other hand have extended infallibility to the bedside diaries of theologians.
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Offline Durango77

Re: To Sedes: Time's Running Out to Elect a New Pope!!!
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2021, 07:57:17 PM »
Quote from: Walters on February 21, 2021, 04:09:16 PM
No, I'm simply trying to determine why he believes a Pope cannot err on matters of faith and morals when he is not defining a doctrine.  
Can you give us some 3xmples of Popes in the 17 and 1800s erring in matters of faith and morals?
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Offline Emile

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Re: To Sedes: Time's Running Out to Elect a New Pope!!!
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2021, 12:11:49 AM »
Quote from: Walters on February 21, 2021, 09:38:30 AM
Please show where Bergoglio ok'd birth control and denied hell.
I haven't seen anyone address the other side of the coin. Are there any examples of Francis clearly, unambiguously, in word and in action standing for any Catholic teaching?
In the practical world when someone has shown themselves to be incompetent, weak, or duplicitous you don't follow them, you don't imitate them. you don't defend them. At minimum you ignore them.
Francis may or may not hold the Office in some way, but I honestly can't understand anyone defending him. I understand wanting to defend the Church and the Papacy (which I assume is what you are trying to do, and what any good Catholic wants to do), but playing this sick minimalist game of "he didn't exactly teach error, he just did everything that he could to promote it"  discredits and cheapens the Church in my opinion.
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: To Sedes: Time's Running Out to Elect a New Pope!!!
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2021, 03:05:15 AM »
Quote from: Walters on February 21, 2021, 11:07:57 PM
And how do you think sedevacantists (and the SSPX) justify consecrating bishops without a papal mandate, when doing so is expressly forbidden in the 1917 Code of Canon law, and again later by Pius XII, who raised the penalty for doing so from suspension to excommunication?  
There, that's better.

How did Abp. L justify it? Answer - a state of emergency, No?
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: To Sedes: Time's Running Out to Elect a New Pope!!!
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2021, 03:08:52 AM »
Reading anything from the Vatican II popes and Vatican II, should be forbidden to the laity, and kept behind lock and key at seminaries, and limited to rare use by clergy in the study of sophism/ambiguity/error/heresy.

I keep repeating it - "Rat poison is 99% nutritious food". It's that 1% dispersed in every molecule of the nutritious food that will kill you just the same, no matter how nutritious and good it tastes.
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