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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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  • Allowing sodomites to take over the Church is worse than not voting in USA. 

    These sodomites are in the Vatican, dioceses.  The local trad chapels are loaded with sodomite clergy too.  



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    Re: To remain indifferent to the sodomites in the Vatican & dioceses
    « Reply #1 on: November 07, 2024, 11:08:27 AM »
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  • Not voting is not necessarily a sin (if one is subjectively convinced both candidates are imperfect) but it could be imprudent.

    As for sodomy in the priesthood, it's disgraceful and disgusting and we must do all we can to oppose it. But, as the old prayer/saying goes, "God grant me the courage to change the things I can, the serenity to accept the things I cannot and the wisdom to know the difference." If we know with certainty of a sodomite priest, the right thing to do imo would be to complain to his bishop to have him prosecuted and laicized. sodomites have no place in the priesthood and the very purpose of the priesthood and seclusion from women that goes with it in the first place was to avoid temptations and for men to focus on celibacy and holiness. But some perverts (thankfully a very small minority, I read it was lesser than in prot churches and in public schools) join seminaries precisely to do their disgraceful deeds to other men or to prepubescent young boys. Its utter filth and has no place in the priesthood. Thankfully, also as the TLM spreads, the younger generation of priests is much holier, loves Tradition, and orthodoxy, and reverence, and I expect we're going to hear less and less cases of such things going forward. That's my hope, but let's see. 

    We must do what we can. And then we must leave the rest to God. God Bless.


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    Re: To remain indifferent to the sodomites in the Vatican & dioceses
    « Reply #3 on: November 07, 2024, 04:32:56 PM »
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  • Trad chapels full of sodomites?  Where do you go to Mass?   

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    Re: To remain indifferent to the sodomites in the Vatican & dioceses
    « Reply #4 on: November 07, 2024, 09:26:51 PM »
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  • Trad chapels full of sodomites?  Where do you go to Mass? 
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    I second this question.


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    Re: To remain indifferent to the sodomites in the Vatican & dioceses
    « Reply #5 on: November 09, 2024, 01:15:39 PM »
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  •  The local trad chapels are loaded with sodomite clergy too. 
    Really? Do you have proof of this? :facepalm:
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: To remain indifferent to the sodomites in the Vatican & dioceses
    « Reply #6 on: November 09, 2024, 03:50:04 PM »
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  • Viva, I notice that you complain alot about what others allegedly do or don't do. In light of that, I am curious to know what actions you yourself are taking to expel the sodomites from the Vatican & dioceses? Or are you remaining indifferent to the evil and doing nothing?
    Write letters.  Send literature to those who support it.  What do you do?  There are two percent or more traditional  Catholics who support sodomites, divorce and remarriage, abortion, birth control. 

    Why don’t any men do anything? What do you do?  Aren’t you a male?  They way you post I had thought you a female.

    If you strive for holiness, you should hate sin.  We see many Catholics today making up excuses for sins.  If the Church is a hospital why isn’t many getting better??



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    Re: To remain indifferent to the sodomites in the Vatican & dioceses
    « Reply #9 on: November 09, 2024, 04:09:48 PM »
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  • Not voting is not necessarily a sin (if one is subjectively convinced both candidates are imperfect) but it could be imprudent.

    As for sodomy in the priesthood, it's disgraceful and disgusting and we must do all we can to oppose it. But, as the old prayer/saying goes, "God grant me the courage to change the things I can, the serenity to accept the things I cannot and the wisdom to know the difference." If we know with certainty of a sodomite priest, the right thing to do imo would be to complain to his bishop to have him prosecuted and laicized. sodomites have no place in the priesthood and the very purpose of the priesthood and seclusion from women that goes with it in the first place was to avoid temptations and for men to focus on celibacy and holiness. But some perverts (thankfully a very small minority, I read it was lesser than in prot churches and in public schools) join seminaries precisely to do their disgraceful deeds to other men or to prepubescent young boys. Its utter filth and has no place in the priesthood. Thankfully, also as the TLM spreads, the younger generation of priests is much holier, loves Tradition, and orthodoxy, and reverence, and I expect we're going to hear less and less cases of such things going forward. That's my hope, but let's see.

    We must do what we can. And then we must leave the rest to God. God Bless.
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    Re: To remain indifferent to the sodomites in the Vatican & dioceses
    « Reply #10 on: November 09, 2024, 04:36:02 PM »
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  • Write letters.  Send literature to those who support it.  What do you do?  There are two percent or more traditional  Catholics who support sodomites, divorce and remarriage, abortion, birth control. 

    Why don’t any men do anything? What do you do?  Aren’t you a male?  They way you post I had thought you a female.
     
    If you strive for holiness, you should hate sin.
    Civil law enforcement are not permitted to do anything about the 🏳️‍🌈 🏳️‍⚧️ crowd.  The US is founded upon the principles of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ; separation of church and state.  We do not have a Catholic or even “christian” form of government.  In an ideal world, the civil government would assist and support the Church.  Our woiirld is far from ideal.  “gαy” marriage, concubinage, divorce and remarriage, abortion, euthanasia is legal in some states, lack of respect Our Lord in the Eucharist, even black or satanic masses are NOT civilly illegal.  So you’re right, the police don’t do anything.  Pedophilia, polygamy, polyandry, bestiality are not legal…yet.  The Communists and Freemasons are working to change it. Lots of people indulge in these practices despite the law. 
    The average Catholic is not in a position to mete out justice for these crimes.  Yes, Catholics should take some form of action. Everyone can pray.  Others participate or organize Rosary rallies.  Yet others can seek to lead erring souls to the Faith by preaching, teaching, spreading good literature, having a blog site, promoting Catholic media.  Others can participate in demonstrations.  How about the corporal works of mercy towards the enemies of Christ?  Simply living a good Catholic life in the public sphere is something we can still do in the USA. 
    Becoming greatly distressed over the sins of nonCatholics is unproductive except to warn and educate us.  Among trads, it’s like preaching to the choir. 
    I highly recommend a return to The Imitation of Christ.  This gem of a book gives practical advice on dealing with such matters.
    God is still in His Heaven, though all is not right with the world. 

    P.S. Which trad chapel is full of sodomite priests and laity?  We’d really like to know so that we don’t go there, especially not with our children and youth!  
    Or were you exaggerating to make a point?  If so, online exaggerations should be specified as such so that readers don’t take it the wrong way.  (A lesson I learned from experience, also, since you’re from New Jersey, do you have the old style New York City sense of humor?  To the uninitiated, it’ll be taken the wrong way.)


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    Re: To remain indifferent to the sodomites in the Vatican & dioceses
    « Reply #11 on: November 09, 2024, 04:57:07 PM »
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  • There are two percent or more traditional  Catholics who support sodomites, divorce and remarriage, abortion, birth control.
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    Could you please tell us how you would define the term "traditional Catholic"? Because, according to the definition of that term that I use, zero percent of traditional Catholics support those things.

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    Re: To remain indifferent to the sodomites in the Vatican & dioceses
    « Reply #12 on: November 12, 2024, 09:13:38 PM »
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  • Viva, I notice that you complain alot about what others allegedly do or don't do. In light of that, I am curious to know what actions you yourself are taking to expel the sodomites from the Vatican & dioceses? Or are you remaining indifferent to the evil and doing nothing?
    I think her point was a comparison between all of the 'knightly' tilting for Trump at the voting booth quintain ...

    https://youtube.com/shorts/aqmBjzAMdu0?si=aoCRElAxIrVi1hTA

    ...and the much higher order business of taking meaningful action against the sodomites in the Church, yes the Traditional ones too.  Who has worked to hold SSPX leadership accountable for the Fr. Rostand debacle?

    Shall we get up at least a public letter with signatures?  Who will sign?

    Granted this next item wasn't about a Trad priest, but you can see the connection to Tradition apathy on this, or at least my own local experience:

    When I circulated a petition for signatures at my local SSPX chapel to Bp Lori of the Diocese of Baltimore and to the USCCB to have Bp Knestout removed from his position as the USCCB's youth advocate ... I was literally laughed at and got a round total of 1 other signature.  (Which I duly sent to both Bp Lori and USCCB)

    I was acting on information made widely available by reporter George Neumayr...who turned up dead only a few months later.

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    Re: To remain indifferent to the sodomites in the Vatican & dioceses
    « Reply #13 on: November 13, 2024, 02:10:31 AM »
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  • ...and the much higher order business of taking meaningful action against the sodomites in the Church, yes the Traditional ones too.  Who has worked to hold SSPX leadership accountable for the Fr. Rostand debacle?
    I was unable to have a reasonable conversation about l'Abbé Rostand with most parishioners. 

    That was a battle that traditionalists priests and bishops outside of the SSPX could have brought forth to attention of the SSPX pewsitters, and the SSPX could have done nothing about it. I'm surprised that E Michael Jones said nothing as well, because he really doesn't like the SSPX. 

    There is one certainty in all catholic groups. Should you or your family be affected by this, no one will help you.   

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    Re: To remain indifferent to the sodomites in the Vatican & dioceses
    « Reply #14 on: November 15, 2024, 09:20:15 AM »
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