Author Topic: To all the "sedes" (Read 4971 times)

DeMaistre · « **on:** June 20, 2009, 01:34:56 AM »

We must all abjure from our schism. Our position is indefensible.

Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom. He who rebels against our Father is condemned to death, for that which we do to him we do to Christ: we honour Christ if we honour the Pope; we dishonour Christ if we dishonour the Pope. I know very well that many defend themselves by boasting: "They are so corrupt, and work all manner of evil!" But God has commanded that, even if the priests, the pastors, and Christ-on-earth were incarnate devils, we be obedient and subject to them, not for their sakes, but for the sake of God, and out of obedience to Him. ~ Saint Catherine of Sienna

I realise that I have lost all my standing now, but I must follow Christ and not men. I apologise for my arrogance.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2009, 02:49:41 AM »

What "standing"? We are ALL non-entities. Your business is your own. God speed.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2009, 02:52:12 AM »

Quote from: DeMaistre

Even if the Pope were Satan incarnate, we ought not to raise our heads against him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom.

Very eloquent (although a bit foolish, taken as literal advice), but not ad rem. It is not that I rebel against the one I take to be the Pontiff, I do not believe he IS the Pontiff. See? God speed.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2009, 02:52:45 AM »

The undertow is strong, isn't it, DeMaistre?

St. Catherine of Siena again, and I've said this a billion times about those who talk about supporting the Pope at any cost, was referring to a Pope's moral failings. That means if Ratzinger was carving up golden retriever puppies in public and eating their corpses raw, he would still be Pope. I'm being emphatic so you understand.

BUT TEACHING HERESY PERSISTENTLY HE CANNOT EVEN BE CATHOLIC. Let alone the Pope. The Pope was either Siri or he was never even elected.

Do you recall the sections of the Bible where the Man of Sin sits in the temple of God? Do you recall Daniel talking about the abomination of desolation? Do you recall Jesus saying "When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand. Then they that are in Judea, let them flee to the mountains. And he that is on the housetop, let him not come down to take any thing out of his house. And he that is in the field, let him not go back to take his coat."

Do you think Catherine of Siena would worship the Man of Sin, a figure of the Man of the Sin, or a precursor of the Man of Sin? This is not the Pope. It is an agent of Satan who sits in the Holy Place as a THIEF. It is part of the necessary mystery of the ages that an agent of Satan ( or more than one ) sit in the throne of Peter. This is just like the Arian crisis all over again with one notable exception -- during that crisis, the Pope held the faith.

You are young and I'm sure you will go up and down on this many times. But keep in mind, you are going back to get your cloak. I hope the world doesn't end while you are in full spiritual backslide mode. You have no idea how lucky you are ( or were ) to have even brushed against the truth. I urge you not to be hasty.

God speed and God bless.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2009, 02:56:01 AM »

Correction:

When I say "That means if Ratzinger was carving up golden retriever puppies in public and eating their corpses raw, he would still be Pope" I actually meant --

"That means that if a hypothetical validly elected Pope were carving up golden retriever puppies in public and eating their corpses raw, he would still be Pope. "

Author Topic: To all the &quot;sedes&quot; (Read 4971 times)

Author Topic: To all the "sedes" (Read 4971 times)