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Author Topic: Timothy McVeigh Sightings at St. Mary's  (Read 866 times)

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Offline St Giles

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Re: Timothy McVeigh Sightings at St. Mary's
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 11:21:23 AM »
I remember Fr. U and a bunch of other seminarians would ride their bikes down seminary hill doing 70mph.  I used to think to myself, is this not a violation of Canon Law?  Clerics are forbidden from engaging in dangerous sports.  Bp. Williamson put a stop to the bicycle excursions, and it was not long after, Fr. U and company packed up and left the seminary.
I don't know about 70, but I've done a solid ~45mph with them down that hill when Fr. Le Roux was... away actually. It was scary. I had no idea what I was getting myself into. 1ft to the right, a guardrail and cliff, 1ft to the left traffic going 50+mph, with the added instability of pedaling full speed in top gear. I thought it would be an easy coasting down the hill, not a race.

Offline OABrownson1876

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« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 11:32:59 AM »
I don't know about 70, but I've done a solid ~45mph with them down that hill when Fr. Le Roux was... away actually. It was scary. I had no idea what I was getting myself into. 1ft to the right, a guardrail and cliff, 1ft to the left traffic going 50+mph, with the added instability of pedaling full speed in top gear. I thought it would be an easy coasting down the hill, not a race.
They might have exaggerated.  But there was a whole group of about twenty of them.  They wore the skintight body suits and had aerodynamic helmets and all.  I asked my buddy Fred one day (because he was one of them) and he told me that they would hit 60-70 mph. Fr. U had a bike that cost about 2 grand.  That was a lot of money back in the mid 90's. 


Re: Timothy McVeigh Sightings at St. Mary's
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 11:58:40 AM »


"I'm proud to say our... uhh.. rather... my nitrate chemistry truck bomb blew up buildings that defied the laws of physics."


McVeighs last written statement:


Invictus poem

Out of the night that covers me,   
   Black as the Pit from pole to pole,   
I thank whatever gods may be   
   For my unconquerable soul.   
In the fell clutch of circuмstance 
   I have not winced nor cried aloud.   
Under the bludgeonings of chance   
   My head is bloody, but unbowed.   
Beyond this place of wrath and tears   
   Looms but the Horror of the shade, 
And yet the menace of the years   
   Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.   
It matters not how strait the gate,   
   How charged with punishments the scroll,   


I am the master of my fate:
   I am the captain of my soul.


William Ernest Henley, Brit poet

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Timothy McVeigh Sightings at St. Mary's
« Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 07:50:38 PM »
I miss your brother Lad.  He seemed to be a good guy, although I did not know him well.  He most certainly looked like McVeigh.  He sold me the nice Sacred Heart statue which I still have today.  He tried to give it to me for free, but I had to give him some money.  I did not know the whole back story with him and St. Mary's and Fr. U.  Wow, those were chaotic times at SSPX Winona for sure.

I remember Fr. U and a bunch of other seminarians would ride their bikes down seminary hill doing 70mph.  I used to think to myself, is this not a violation of Canon Law?  Clerics are forbidden from engaging in dangerous sports.  Bp. Williamson put a stop to the bicycle excursions, and it was not long after, Fr. U and company packed up and left the seminary.

Yes, he was a good man, and I miss him too.  Indeed he bore a strong resemblance to McVeigh, and at the time he had the same haircut.  Not only did he have the same head shape, but even the narrower mouth and the way his mouth moved, etc.  I'll try to dig up a picture of him from around that timeframe.

So this new book "Traddyland" claims that McVeigh had attended St. Mary's for Easter Mass ... thereby trying to smear Traditional Catholics as radicals.  Only problem is that the FBI actually investigated these rumors but found no corroborating evidence whatsoever, and in fact, the place McVeigh and Nichols Junction City on Easter Sunday (about an hour West of St. Mary's), and then on Easter Sunday, they drove down to OKC to make some preparations (although McVeigh was 100% a patsie and this was a fed operation).  FBI would have liked to smear Trads with this, but couldn't make it stick.  And of course, Steve was there, in lay clothes at that time, since he had planned to leave already, and did leave on Easter Monday.  That actually resulted in a couple more McVeigh "sightings" in Missouri, exactly when and where Steve happened to be on his route at those very times.

In addiiton, McVeigh, while he had been raised a Catholic, fell away by his late teens, and by his time in the military he said that he was declared himself an agonistic, saying that the "only religion was science".  He continued on in these beliefs during his time on death row, and only right before his execution did he request Last Rites ... which were laughably in that context called "Anointing of the Sick".  Giving "Anointing of the Sick" to those about to be executed.

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« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 08:45:05 PM »
 He continued on in these beliefs during his time on death row, and only right before his execution did he request Last Rites ... which were laughably in that context called "Anointing of the Sick".  Giving "Anointing of the Sick" to those about to be executed.
Live by the sword, die by the sword :facepalm: