Author Topic: TIA: How long will it take to ordain woman priests? (Read 4419 times)

Pessimist · « **on:** October 21, 2008, 07:27:44 AM »

Church Revolution in Pictures

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How long will it take to ordain woman priests?

The photo above, shot October 15, 2008, shows nine representatives of the Women's Ordination Conference from the U.S., just one of the many movements that is gathering in Rome now to pressure the Bishops' Synod (October 5-26) to give woman more places in the Church. Other such organizations include the international movement We Are Church, The Purple Stole from Germany, New Wine from England and Roman Catholic Priestesses from the Netherlands. They are asking Benedict XVI - at the very least - to allow more women to "proclaim the Gospel and preach at Mass."

The feminine presence at the Synod is extraordinary. There are six scholar experts and 19 observers who are women. On October 14, 11 women spoke at the Synod. One of them, Sister Viviana Ballarin, Superior of the Dominican Sisters of St. Catherine of Siena, went so far as to affirm that God is simultaneously Father and Mother, and described the feminine presence in the Church as being her "fruitful womb" where God can meet man.

If we continue to travel in the feminization of the Church at the speed we are witnessing today, it seems that it won't be long before we have women priests. Below, we show some examples of how this agenda is being accomplished.

Pessimist · « **Reply #1 on:** October 21, 2008, 07:28:43 AM »

First row at left, Pope Ratzinger greets Sara Butler a member of the International Theological Commission, part of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith; at right, he receives the Offertory gifts from a lady at St. Peter's Basilica; second row at left, a woman delivers intructions to the congregation in Linz, Austria; at right, a sister ministers the Holy Ashes to parishioners in the Philippines.

Third and fourth rows, women distribute the Holy Eucharist in Spain, the United States and Singapore; fifth row at left, a woman wears the same vestments as the priest in Holland and serves as his acolyte at Mass; at right, in Austria a woman says the prayers at the altar in a religious service that substitutes for the Mass.

Pessimist · « **Reply #2 on:** October 21, 2008, 07:30:52 AM »

I can't wait until they "ordain" womenpriests! When that happens, they'll definitively show themselves to be the false Counterchurch they are.

marasmius · « **Reply #3 on:** October 21, 2008, 09:05:33 AM »

L'Osservatore Romano, 30th May 2008

English Translation
Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith
General Decree
Regarding the crime of attempting sacred ordination of a woman

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, to protect the nature and validity of the sacrament of holy orders, in virtue of the special faculty conferred to it by the supreme authority of the Church (see canon 30, Canon Law), in the Ordinary Session of December 19, 2007, has decreed:

Remaining firm on what has been established by canon 1378 of the Canon Law, both he who has attempted to confer holy orders on a woman, and the woman who has attempted to receive the said sacrament, incurs in latae sententiae excommunication, reserved to the Apostolic See.

If he who has attempted to confer holy orders on a woman or if the woman who has attempted to receive holy orders, is a member of the faithful subject to the Code of Canon Law for the Eastern Churches, remaining firm on what has been established by canon 1443 of the same Code, they will be punished with major excommunication, whose remission remains reserved to the Apostolic See (see canon 1423, Canon Law of the Eastern Churches).

The current decree will come into immediate force from the moment of publication in the 'Osservatore Romano' and is absolute and universal.

William Cardinal Levada
Prefect
Angelo Amato, S.D.B.
Titular Archbishop of Sila
Secretary

marasmius · « **Reply #4 on:** October 21, 2008, 09:07:30 AM »

The above General Decree from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is a rather long way of saying that women will be ordained priests in the Catholic Church "when Hell freezes over."

Dawn · « **Reply #5 on:** October 21, 2008, 12:14:38 PM »

Oh, Levada. The one in exile from his doings in the sex scandal. Trust him.

sedetrad · « **Reply #6 on:** October 21, 2008, 01:24:14 PM »

When Ratzinger dies, the next anti-pope will make women priests. They will no longer have to pay lip service to the sspx or other trad groups because everything will be in the toilet by then.

requiemaeturnum · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2008, 03:10:40 PM »

I respectfully disagree with all of the views shown here. Pope Benedict XVI has proven that he is completely against the ordination of women.

roscoe · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2008, 04:29:32 PM »

'Pope'??? Benedict????

requiemaeturnum · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2008, 05:07:49 PM »

I am a not a sedevancanist, I am an altar server at a parish where the FSSP operates, and I hope to become ordained a FSSP priest.

trent13 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2008, 08:38:53 PM »

And I'm sedevacantist so if he does or if he doesn't ordain women priests, it doesn't really change anything - it would just be another example of the insanity of the novus ordo.

requiemaeturnum · « **Reply #11 on:** October 28, 2008, 09:00:27 PM »

Are you listening to yourself? Fidei et Ratio, faith and reason. When will you be satisfied? Maybe if Pope Benedict XVI resigns? You must at least show some reason. If whatever the Pope does cannot satisfy you then what do you expect from us? I am not particular to the Novus Ordo either, but I do not call my relatives who attend it "insane". Honestly, I could have never expected this amount of hatred.

Matthew · « **Reply #12 on:** October 28, 2008, 11:19:00 PM »

You have to let a lot of the sede rhetoric "roll off your back" as it were, or you'll end up angry or upset.

I would like to point out, you only have to deal with this kind of "hatred" when you enter into the lions den called the "Crisis in the Church subforum".

There are a lot of good Catholics on here who tend to avoid the Crisis sub-forum because they don't like arguing with sedes.

Matthew

requiemaeturnum · « **Reply #13 on:** October 28, 2008, 11:24:50 PM »

Yes.

But then it would be no fun huh?

I must follow the advice of Pope St. Felix III, as seen in my signature.

Honestly though, I do not see why there must be so much animosity. We have much in common..... go to the same Mass, profess the same Nicene Creed, have the same morals, believe in Jesus Christ.......... it is a tragedy that this is the way it must be.

In the future, let it be known that I will reflect the views of the Catholic Church, and if I will be ridiculed for it, then so be it.

trent13 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 29, 2008, 03:26:28 PM »

Easy! Easy! No animosity meant - a lot of times what is just meant to be a statement of fact coming from a sede ( no animosity involved) is taken offensively by other parties. Hatred is a strong word, like the word ugly, and there are very few things that I reserve that feeling for. If I consider it, that I believe the Novus Ordo leads souls away from God, then yes, to some degree there is (actual) hatred for it - but I don't really see why such a sentiment would be surprising. But no animosity towards those who attend - hate the sin, not the sinner. I'd say I feel sorry for them (and there are those who are sympathetic to the novus ordo who would claim that is patronizing - maybe it is, but I think sadness for their lack of sight is more appropriate then animosity).

Also, you ask a sede to be reaonable with regards to expecting things out of ratzinger - I don't expect anything out of Ratzinger, whatever comes that is bad (like ordaining women priests) is typical, whatever is "good" is at best suspect - and as I don't believe he is the pope, why expect anything of consequence. About the only thing he could do that would actually give me a double take is to reject all the reforms of Vatican II, all of the heresies and heretical acts and restore the Church. But that isn't going to happen...