Oh, I do hope you can visit with him.  I would like to meet him  someday.  Did you see his article in the Four Marks?  Toss any questions you have at me for now.  I'll do my best.  Night all.

Sorry, I lost my madman rant, but there is more where that came from.  Some might say a neverending stream -- check the Alex Jones thread.

One thought before bed.  I talk to Alex ( not Jones, the Alex from this site ) on the phone and she likes to say that only the Holy Pope who works with the Great Monarch can end the confusion, only then will we know if these are Popes or not Popes.  Okay.  But there is another way to look at it.  Yes, this situation looks like it will be ended with a holy Pope and restoration of the Church -- but did it have to be that way?  God only pulls miracles out of his hat when it is absolutely necessary.  Otherwise, He prefers to work through us, men, His agents, His emissaries, His saints.

Following from that, the fact that there has to be a Minor Chastisement that kills 75% of the population in order to shake people out of their incredible torpor -- what more needs to be said?  Did it have to be this way?  Yeah, God knows all events beforehand and He knew this would happen, but that doesn't mean He approves of it.  He also knows about the advent of the Antichrist beforehand but has no wish for that event.  It's just that humanity's rebellion opens the door for evil, and because of free will God lets it happen.

There are two ways to look at our present predicament then:

( a ) We don't have to worry about who is Pope and we just have to go to the Latin Mass and be patient because God will solve all of this ( by killing off or permitting to be killed the majority of population, including children and old people, which I'm sure He just LOVES doing -- sarcasm )

( b ) God has to send the Chastisement because humanity was frozen and lukewarm and failed to use the grace He gave us to solve the crisis on our own.  

Of course ( b ) is the truth and more in keeping with God's nature.  We are all responsible for how far things have gone.  Never has an age had so many brilliant engineers, historians, academics, doctors, all these people putting all this energy into everything OTHER than the kingdom of God which they were instructed to seek FIRST.  What astonishes me is how filmmakers continue making films, musicians continue writing music, newscaster continue casting fake news, and all of this keeps trudging on, when ALL PEOPLE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT IS VATICAN II.  Where is the outrage, the uproar over this outside the trad circles?  

There is a conspiracy behind Vatican II, but the conspiracy is led by a relatively few men.  They could be smoked out like the ineffectual weenies they are by a mass awakening.  Yet the masses prefer to be paid off and bought off, they have chosen "their lives," "their careers," over God, wanting to have "normal lives" and turn a blind eye to reality.  It is perfect justice now that all their jobs are failing, their reality is failing and crumbling right in front of them.  And still in the ruins they go on searching for that paycheck, for that jackpot.  Un-freaking-believable, this Apostasy.  Just to observe it is amazing.  

And if you are a particularly good tool of God it is very possible that the enemy will try to destroy you rather than have you salvage any souls for Him.  Failing that he will probably marginalize you and destroy your reputation so as to keep souls from profiting by you.  You may even find your family dessimated, your see stolen and yourself being kicked from pillar to post, not to mention everything you do being manipulated and brought to ruin.

And that, I think, is the true story of Thuc.  I want to thank you all for helping to bring this to the light.  It must have been a refreshing change for our good Bishop Thuc and I'm sure his shepherd's heart delights in every one of you.

SJB

What is your opinion about Thuc?

Quote from: Alexandria

Raoul Said:

"Those like Belloc can boast about the superior prudence of Abp. Lefebvre all they want.  The fact is, he only went halfway.  If SSPX never happened, who knows, the sedevacantist movement might have actually gained steam.  How many potential bright lights of sedevacantism were sucked into the SSPX because they could have cushier careers there?"

Others have said the same in the seventies and eighties.

If you want to PM me with your lengthier madman version, I'll read it.

And this, my dear young man was also planned!  SSPX was set up to grab the "bright lights" and the people with money.  If  the emenies could keep these Catholics in the "back room" of the V11 church, the resistence to the New Church could be minimized.

All I can say about posts like this (as in all of the quoted posts) is that in my opinion we should refrain from making such judgments and categorizing an entire group as large as the SSPX under one blanket category. I think that this applies to all the trad. movements. Archbishop Thuc and Archbishop Lefebvre were both holy men regardless of how their successors have turned out.

These days, everything is turned upside down.....place your trust in Jesus Christ.  

Nuts!  I've been trying to move Fr. Neil Webster's interview on Bp. Thuc over here and I can't pull it off.  Sorry about the dead post.

Have any of you checked out Neal Webster's credentials - who ordained him, the lineage, his affiliations?

Hi Roman Catholic :cheers:

How does one check out credentials?  (I don't know who Neal Webster is even)  I know that savvy people can find out just about anything about anyone these days.

What's your take on Abp. Thuc, if any?