Author Topic: THREE living bishops consecrated before death of Pius XII (Read 12781 times)

Centroamerica · « **Reply #30 on:** April 26, 2018, 06:50:11 PM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on April 26, 2018, 12:45:08 PM

Which ones have come out and denounced Vatican II as a false religion?

Same could be said of the (3) valid Latin rite bishops, making your post pointless and off topic.
Denouncing and simply not putting it into practice or ignoring it are two different things, but both are commendable given the circuмstances.

(Let me add that I believe there are more than three (3) valid Latin rite bishops in the world who are not SV, SSPX or Resistance. I would be inclined to believe that most of the bishops consecrated in the Novus Ordo rite by true bishops not modernists are valid bishops. I am unsure who is and what their numbers are so I avoid them as a general rule. See validity of the new rite... http://sspx.org/en/validity-new-rite-episcopal-consecrations )

2Vermont · « **Reply #31 on:** April 26, 2018, 07:08:44 PM »

Quote from: Centroamerica on April 26, 2018, 06:50:11 PM

Same could be said of the (3) valid Latin rite bishops, making your post pointless and off topic.
Denouncing and simply not putting it into practice or ignoring it are two different things, but both are commendable given the circuмstances.

I would argue that given we're into this 50+ years just ignoring it or not putting it into practice is less than commendable. The indults do this too.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #32 on:** April 26, 2018, 07:11:33 PM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on April 26, 2018, 07:08:44 PM

I would argue that given we're into this 50+ years just ignoring it or not putting it into practice is less than commendable. The indults do this too.

I thought the Indults preached all about Vatican 2 and the new popes. I think there is a clear difference between the Eastern rites and the Indults, mostly being that Eastern rites have valid priestly orders.

Either way, this list of three living Latin rite bishops is so incomplete when you consider that there are so many more valid bishops in the world. Even the Campos defection has a valid bishop that can trace his orders back through Bishops Rangel and Williamson and Archbishop Lefebvre.

RomanTheo · « **Reply #33 on:** April 26, 2018, 07:20:13 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on April 26, 2018, 11:22:35 AM

UPDATE: Now it's down to THREE living bishops appointed by Pius XII.

It's actually down to two. Bishop Dominik Katala was ordained during the reign of Pius XII, but wasn't appointed until 1985.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #34 on:** April 26, 2018, 07:31:17 PM »

Quote from: forlorn on April 26, 2018, 12:38:52 PM

Finding a Ukrainian or Coptic Church within a distance you can travel to weekly is downright impossible for most people I'd imagine.

I'm very blessed that way. Within 45 minutes drive of me I have ...

2 SSPX chapels (Cleveland, OH and Girard, OH)
1 Independent SSPX-aligned chapel (Akron, OH)
1 SSPV chapel (Parma, OH)
1 CMRI chapel (Akron, OH)
2 Ukrainian Rite churches (including the seat of the Eparchy) (Akron, OH and Parma, OH)
1 Maronite church (another about an hour from where I live) ... though I wouldn't go there because they're thoroughly Novus Ordized (Fairlawn, OH and Cleveland, OH)
6 Byzantine-Ruthenian churches (including the seat of the Eparchy) (Barberton, Brunswick, Brecksville, Solon, Burton, and Parma, OH)
1 Melkite Rite church (Akron, OH)
3-4 older/retired priests who will offer the Sacraments (e.g. Confession) in the traditional form

Cleveland area has always been a very ethnically diverse region of the country with lots of immigration.

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