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Offline Dawn

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Thoughts on yesterdays Assisi Anniversary
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2007, 03:29:03 PM »
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  • Why not send letters to the Vatican? Catherine of Seina did so. The problem is not with the people trying to attend Mass where they can find it. The Enemy is Rome. And, that will be handled with prayer and finally God's just punishment. But, Whoa to them that with there silence or there excuses or their blind sheepish follow of heretics that call themselves the Magesterium of Christ's own Church. You make yourselves accomplishes. As a Catholic to pray for Benedict and the rest who drag the Bride of Christ through dung heaps is a real no brainer. We are called to pray for the conversion of all to the True Faith, yes, even Joseph Ratzinger. But we are also called not to aid and abeit and to use our voices to warn and guide those they we can. After all, we are the Church Militant. And, that Church historically is made up of people who had "other things" to occupy them such as work, and family, but they managed to stand up and fight when needed. I have called priests and nuns when I was in the Novus Ordo and the light was started to filter into my brain and questioned and showed truths and I have called Bishops and yes even sent letters to the Vatican. If they choose to continue on their path to hell, atleast I tried as do others.

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    « Reply #16 on: October 25, 2007, 03:54:50 PM »
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  • I like your suggestions except for the Vatican, because they have been sitting on us for 49 years.  That's all they've done is sit on us, lull us to sleep, and lead us further from God, helping us place sin after sin between us and salvation.

    Now that is the reality for us when all the ins and outs are stripped away and we are holding the bag.  This is what the Vatican has done for each of us personally.  I believe they did it with malice aforethought, so crying to them is a great waste of time.  But if it makes people feel better...

    But from personal experience I am with Chant about the NO--that there are people who simply lack information and would get out if they could.  I didn't get out because I thought the NO was the only show in town.  The NO should be declared a missionary field.  And the rest of us should drop the theology and get on with the plain and simple business of our apostleship.  
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    Please pray for the repose of her soul.


    Offline JoanScholastica

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    « Reply #17 on: October 26, 2007, 03:49:11 AM »
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  • Quote from: gilbertgea
    I think that first, before traditionalists can go about actually "doing something", they should come out of their holes, unite among themselves, and operate within the supervision of some sort of ecclesiastical authority.  Only then will their actions truly make any difference here on earth.


    I doubt if this will ever happen. I still believe it is only the Pope who can change our never ending dilemma. And no matter how many times we ramble here, so long as the Pope never wakes up, our authority is limited.

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    « Reply #18 on: October 26, 2007, 05:39:08 AM »
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  • Limited to what?  St. Francis of Assisi saw no limitations.  We cannot call synods and councils or change anything in the teachings of the Church (but neither can they legitimately).  We can't give or get papal blessings.  But St. Catherine of Sienna was an ordinary lay person like us, albeit a tertiary, and wow did she make a difference.  

    We have the simple authority of the Word of Christ to do the right, to set our light on a lampstand, to follow Him---which I think means doing what He did, teaching, preaching, dying.  As parents we do it all the time.

    In my opinion, what we are is ripped off, not limited.
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    « Reply #19 on: October 26, 2007, 10:48:48 AM »
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  • "I doubt if this will ever happen. I still believe it is only the Pope who can change our never ending dilemma. And no matter how many times we ramble here, so long as the Pope never wakes up, our authority is limited."

    Joan,

    You are mostly correct.  We as laymen have no authority to lead a modern counter-reformation: only the Pope can truly do that, which is why we should pray for the man, even if it seems humanly impossible to us that our prayers will be of any effect.  Humanly speaking, we are in an impossible situation and, without Divine Providence, we will accomplish nothing.  It will take a miracle to untangle this mess that is the modern world.

    However, our Holy Religion teaches that miracles do indeed happen.  Thus, we must continue to pray.

    That said, there is much that we can do with regard to what we believe, how we dress, how we conduct ourselves, how we raise our familes (for those of us with families), whom we choose to associate, where we choose to live, what sorts of political activities we might engage in and with whom, and so on.

    I just read a good article on the importance of families, which I think cannot be over-stated.  I'll post a link to it later.  As we know, the family is the most perfect natural society and as fathers, mothers, and members we all can play an important part.  The father of the family (pater familias, in Latin) plays the principal leadership role, as he sets the tone for how the family will generally conduct itself.  Without strong fathers who know their Faith and can lead by example, strong families are difficult if not impossible to create.  Then of course, there is the critical role played by the mothers who, because they generally spend the most time with the children, have perhaps the strongest practical role in terms of their education.

    By founding and maintaining strong families -- the building blocks of society as a whole -- we are taking the first steps in re-creating Catholic Christian society, i.e. what used to be called "Christendom".


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    « Reply #20 on: October 26, 2007, 11:02:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: Dawn
    Why not send letters to the Vatican?...The Enemy is Rome.


    You have answered your own question, my dear lady.  To send a letter, or even billions of letters, to the enemy is a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.  He will simply LAUGH AT those who do such, as he has naught save CONTEMPT for such people.

    Look at the reception l'Abbe de Nantes received from Paul VI.

    These men are out to destroy all that is of God.  Do we believe that Stalin or Mao would have altered their methods and their plans if the good people of Russia or China would have written them nice letters?
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #21 on: October 27, 2007, 03:45:25 AM »
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    « Reply #22 on: October 27, 2007, 04:05:52 AM »
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  • Good idea, Joan---populate Catholics back into existence.  That IS one thing we have over the pro aborts and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.  There was another heresy, I forget the name, who thought the body was evil and died out from lack of reproduction.  Their belief system terminated them.  Our beliefs cause us to flourish.

    This ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ movement is mui dangerous because the idiots are making converts and adopting or foster parenting our children.  The abortion people are doing so well last I heard because a lot of the young people have begun to see through that and to resent the murder of their siblings and peers.  

    I still think you're beating a dead horse in the pope, but so be it.  Nevertheless, just because he isn't doing his job doesn't mean we can't do ours.
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    « Reply #23 on: October 27, 2007, 10:45:16 AM »
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    « Reply #24 on: October 27, 2007, 06:56:43 PM »
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  • Thanks for all the sound advices, Trinity and gilbertgea. I shall always keep it in my heart.