So.....would that be a no....Fr. Hesse is not a valid priest?

It's not a difficult question, is it? You present yourself as an authority on everything relating to the Catholic Faith, so it shouldn't be a difficult question for you.

So.....would that be a no....Fr. Hesse is not a valid priest?

It's not a difficult question, is it? You present yourself as an authority on everything relating to the Catholic Faith, so it shouldn't be a difficult question for you.

Right, and JP2 Wojtyla was validly consecrated in the Old Rite also, though that doesn't factor in here.  I knew a priest who was ordained by Wojtyla in the New Rite and then was conditionally ordained by Bishop Williamson.

With due respect to Ladislaus, I would hold that Archbishop Lefebvre, Bishop Williamson, Bishop Tissier and Fr Schmidberger of old (I just can't bring myself to say Bp F...) can be taken as sure guides given to us by the Good Lord in this crisis who would not have put the salvation of souls in danger in such a certain manner, especially ABL, the prelate given a special mission from God for leading the flock in this crisis.

You need to get ahold of yourself. You are very confused and need to do some calm prayer and research.

Archbishop Lefebvre and his line of bishops/priests is 100% valid with no danger or doubt. That whole "Lienart was a Freemason" was a stupid argument when they trotted it out the 1st time, as well as the 1000th time. It's a false argument made up by sedevacantists and other enemies, with the aim of eliminating the competition. The SSPX was a huge organization, very Catholic, and blessed by God for decades, one of the primary bulwarks of Tradition (the Traditional Movement). Look at the fruits. A good tree can only bear good fruit.

There were co-consecrators at +ABL's consecration. And by going through the ceremony, the consecrator intends to "do what the Church does". You see, the problem with the Novus Ordo Mass is that the liturgy ITSELF is ambiguous, suggesting it's just a meal and/or the People are the ones who consecrate/offer the Sacrifice, so if the priest doesn't explicitly know and intend to consecrate the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus -- due to his seminary training -- then one can reasonably worry that it didn't happen. That's what's great about the Traditional Mass -- the ceremony itself is un-ambiguous.

As for why that providential, God-blessed SSPX "fell" -- I'll give you the same reason I'd give for how the Catholic Church  (a.k.a. Bride of Christ, the Church founded by God Himself) could have "problems" starting in the 1960's. God allows these crises in order to test the Faithful, to bring good out of evil, and allow his Elect to practice virtue. If the Bride of Christ could go into this kind of Crisis, you better believe the SSPX is fair game!

There is some doubt about the new Rite of Ordination and Consecration. No, there were not any such doubts before Vatican II. Nothing substantial was done to the Ordination Rite, just like nothing was done to the Faith or the Mass which affected its fundamental dogmas or premises. You need to read some books on the Crisis, what happened at Vatican II, what they systematically changed. That will enlighten you immensely.

Don't give up the Faith. The devil is playing with your mind right now. Go read some *books* on the Crisis in the Church that started at Vatican II. Angelus Press had several good books on the topic, and they still do.

There is no reason to doubt the Archbishop's judgement, and I strongly recommend you read Fr Calderon's study on the NREC, which hopefully will be posted soon, to educate yourself better on this subject.

Ha ha! Classic Pax. Yours is based on delusion! Does it not occur to you that Archbishop Lefebvre, the prelate prepared by Almighty God from all eternity for this special mission in His Church - just pause for a moment and consider what that means - might have a better understanding of the FACTS of sacramental theology than Ladisalaus or you? That is fact, not emotion. The Good Lord does not expect every member of the faithful to be a theologian. There is no reason to doubt the Archbishop's judgement, and I strongly recommend you read Fr Calderon's study on the NREC, which hopefully will be posted soon, to educate yourself better on this subject.