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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Question About V2 Popes' Infallibility
« Reply #130 on: October 01, 2024, 11:30:50 AM »
You can’t be serious?  Do you think Martin Luther was a normal case of heresy?

Offline Stubborn

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Re: Question About V2 Popes' Infallibility
« Reply #131 on: October 01, 2024, 11:36:22 AM »
This is what I said:
This is what you said:

No, it's right in one sense but wrong in another sense.  It depends.”

A heretic is not a Catholic, period. What you posted above in no way supports what you said here: “No, it's right in one sense but wrong in another sense.  It depends.”

I don’t know if you just try to post something, anything to contradict me, but you’re starting to look really stupid. What is your problem?
In one sense, the heretic, as well as you and others, may or may not believe he is a Catholic, that's "in one sense."

In the other sense, if he was ever Catholic then the Church considers him a Catholic in mortal sin, one who needs to confess his sins and amend his life. That's "in the other sense." 

I think you know this already, but simply will not accept it, that's what I think.


Offline Stubborn

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Re: Question About V2 Popes' Infallibility
« Reply #132 on: October 01, 2024, 11:40:12 AM »
You can’t be serious?  Do you think Martin Luther was a normal case of heresy?
No. Luther, Henry VIII et all are not normal cases.

If you would have read the thread, you would see I tried to get QV and 2V to imagine themselves as heretics wanting to repent. = Normal.

 I did say at one point that a heretic could be Luther and Calvin combined and still be absolved in confession, but I meant their heresies, not their notoriety.

Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Question About V2 Popes' Infallibility
« Reply #133 on: October 01, 2024, 12:17:11 PM »
In one sense, the heretic, as well as you and others, may or may not believe he is a Catholic, that's "in one sense."

In the other sense, if he was ever Catholic then the Church considers him a Catholic in mortal sin, one who needs to confess his sins and amend his life. That's "in the other sense." 

I think you know this already, but simply will not accept it, that's what I think.
Well, at least Stubborn makes sense of what you wrote, now you know you’re in trouble. :laugh1: