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Offline Matthew

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Third Secret spoke of Vatican II
« on: February 02, 2011, 04:13:46 PM »
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    Have you heard of Bishop Fulham in Florida?
     
    He confirms that the then Card. Ratzinger mentioned in 1987 to Msgr Klaus Gamber that the third secret of Fatima given before 1917 mentions, among other things, these three prophetic items:
     
    1. That a council would be called that would wreak great havoc, and there is no doubt this refers to Vatican II.
    2. That the biggest mistake, among many others, of this council, would be the so-called "reform" of the sacred liturgy.
    3. That the result of this would be very widespread and almost universal loss of faith.
     
    When asked why these items were not included in the news release of 2000, Ratzinger reportedly said and not without some tinge of evasion, that the secret contained so much, it was impossible to release all of it.  
     
    There were also some relatively well publicized prophesy about enourmous natural disasters and tremendous loss of life, obviously referring to events still to come.
     
    But all of this conforms quite well to what Jesus Himself said in the gospels about the end times.
     
    Keep in mind that the secret was given by Our Lady to the Fatima children before 1917, and one pope after another refused to release anything about it.
    In direct opposition to Holy Mary's command, and therefore in direct opposition to the will of Almighty God.  They were determined to carry out their modernist agenda no matter what.
    For example, John XXIII, who convened the council in 1962, reportedly said in 1960 that the contents of the secret were not relative to "our" time, with no further explanation.
     
    Paul VI, who unleashed the council as well as the liturgical changes on the world, said even less about it, but spoke volumes by what he did not say, and by what he did.
    John Paul I, who, it is reported, was planning to not only release the full third secret, but also return to the Church to tradition, was murdered before he could do so.
    If would like the details concerning that particular episode, just let me know.
     
    Then John Paul II and Benedict XVI only released highly edited, sanitized versions of the third Fatima Secret.
     
    Finally, you may have heard about some recent revisions to the Novus Ordo liturgy, mostly changing it to be more "traditional".  Sounds good, but...
    According to some sources, this is only a prelude to further changes, and what Benedict XVI would really like to do, and he as said as much several times.
    That he wants to change both liturgies so that there will only be one liturgy again in the Latin Rite.
     
    We shall see about that.   More specifically, who will go along with these changes, and who will not.
     
    Considering, for example, that last year the pope asked all of the world bishops to report back to him on the status of the Latin Mass in their dioceses.
    A recent Vatican interview revealed that only about 30% of the bishops even bothered to respond.
     
    To many observers, this all comes as no surprise.
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    Offline JohnGrey

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    Third Secret spoke of Vatican II
    « Reply #1 on: February 03, 2011, 03:00:31 PM »
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  • Bollocks.  How many version of this "secret" are we going to get?  At this point, I'm beginning to wonder how we could ever be certain of its authenticity.

    Inasmuch as Luciani, Wojtyla and Ratzinger are concerned, painting any of the perditious usurpers in any kind of "traditional" light is the grossest species of revisionism.  Luciani was a devout modernist that expressly questioned the infallibility of the Church's dogma on contraception and chemical abortifacients as enshrined in Humanae vitae.  No amount of space permitted by this board would allow one to give an accurate account of Wojtyla's heresies.  As for Ratzinger, he has not a single desire to restore anything of tradition; one need only consume his writings and statements, rife with the heresies conjured by the Apostate Council, to know that any reversion in discipline will be nothing more or less than a worm on the hook for poor souls ignorant in their faith.