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Re: Thinking about attending the CSPV instead of the SSPX
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2026, 05:36:50 PM »
Quote from: SanskritCrayon on June 18, 2026, 10:40:55 PM
My mother and I are thinking about attending the CSPV Mass around Rochester, Minnesota. The three reasons why we would like to attend a CSPV (Congregation of St. Pius V) Mass are: 1. they enforce modesty regulations, 2. there are no NO priests who have not been conditionally ordained, and 3. they are not sort of "in communion with Rome" in the same way that the SSPX currently is. The CSPV and the SSPV are essentially the same thing, I'm not sure what all the story behind that is. I know that they will deny Communion to people who attend Masses celebrated by priests in the line of Abp. Thuc. We don't do that so we should be okay. I'm not sedevacantist but I do think that the current popes have at least some degree of doubt about them, especially the two most recent ones. I do know that the SAJM says that it is permissible to attend sedevacantist Masses. There is a noticeable minority of people at our chapel in St. Paul, Minnesota, who wear improper clothing to Mass. They now have a picture of Fr. Pagliarani right next to Pope Leo XIV. Finally, I did get the paperback version of Sean Johnson's "as we are" book, and he is from Minnesota and goes to the CSPV. So that makes the situation more interesting.
Is there anything we need to know about or do before going?
I would pray for some guidance from Our Lady. Divine providence places us where we are for a reason.

It may be that you have been given the local SSPX chapel as an option to provide good example and an alternative option to R&R theology for other laity.

In writing this, if there are real and serious dangers at the chapel to you or your children then it would be prudent to go somewhere else.
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Re: Thinking about attending the CSPV instead of the SSPX
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2026, 07:15:41 PM »
If you follow the logic of "any traditional Mass", then you are obliged to say that the crises in the Church is just about the Mass.

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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Thinking about attending the CSPV instead of the SSPX
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2026, 01:32:49 PM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on June 20, 2026, 07:15:41 PM
If you follow the logic of "any traditional Mass", then you are obliged to say that the crises in the Church is just about the Mass.

The term "crises" is plural, yet you follow it with the singular form of the verb (in this case, "is"). Perhaps handing out advice about "logic" is putting the cart before the horse.  I'd also be grateful if you could kindly indicate, ideally with the support of a quotation, where anyone within this thread has espoused the "any traditional Mass" position.  Thank you in advance.  Godspeed.
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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Thinking about attending the CSPV instead of the SSPX
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2026, 02:10:30 PM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on June 22, 2026, 01:54:43 PM
Maybe don't get smart with me the next time and we can all live in peace.

You are an arrogant, oft-mistaken douche-bag.  I am hardly the only one here who thinks that, although most are far too kind to say it. 

Thank you for providing zero evidence, with or without the support of an actual quotation, to support your claim.

Pound sand.

Not only can I slap those who deserve it, but I can also live in peace simultaneously.  The idea that the two are somehow mutually exclusive is untrue.  Godspeed.
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Offline Everlast22

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Re: Thinking about attending the CSPV instead of the SSPX
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2026, 02:45:23 PM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on June 22, 2026, 02:11:59 PM
oh I'm sorry princess. Did you think I wanted to be your friend and hold your hand as you got smart with me?
You're 100% a plant.
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