Author Topic: There Will Be No Three Days of Darkness (Read 2170 times)

Cera · « **Reply #15 on:** November 09, 2020, 11:53:42 AM »

Our Lord to Marie Julie Jahenny November 13, 1924

“I will leave to the wicked one hour of power and strength, they will, to increase their number, all the outcasts of the abyss, the eternal abyss, all the damned who are on the earth in human forms to destroy everything, to annihilate everything. I will leave them this painful and difficult hour. It will be followed by a profound darkness. The whole sky will be cloudy. Your blessed lights (i.e., the pure wax candles) will serve in the day and My blessings will be abundant. My peace will be with you in this dark night, I will launch all the features of My Justice. I will blast the losers of souls. I will sift the false consciences. I will annihilate the wicked. I will reduce them like a ......(text missing?) This time is not far off when I assure you that you will not fear. My cross and My Divine Heart will be your shelter, your refuge, stay, do not run away ... elsewhere. My Justice will pass. The whole earth will continue in My Justice. It is the time that I will rise up, I will stop all the evil to enter in the beautiful reign of My Sacred Heart.”

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Marie-Julie Jahenny is generally considered an authentic mystic since the first local bishop who was reviewed her case, Bishop Fournier of Nantes, was favourable to her cause and believed all that was occurring to her was of supernatural origin.

Bishop Fournier wrote to Dr. Imbert-Gourbeyre, the physician who examined her stigmata and her complete fasts while living on Communion alone, and declared them to be genuine:

“The reports that I receive daily on Marie-Julie show me more and more the action of God on this soul. He grants her graces of an obvious supernatural order. At the same time she grows in virtue and noble sentiments. The natural and human disappear in her, and she often speaks to people she sees or who are referred to her giving instructions which are not in keeping with her normal state. Therefore be confident, dear Doctor, the time will come when Marie-Julie herself will be the proof... . She is sincere: what she manifests is supernatural. I see nothing but good, edifying and in conformity with the principles of spirituality. Therefore it is God who favours her; you may be sure it will turn out well.” (Bishop Fournier, July 6, 1875)

Mark 79 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 09, 2020, 12:02:58 PM »

Quote from: Cera on November 09, 2020, 11:46:10 AM

…attacks from the enemy (which is what these false ones are) only serve to add credibility to the reputable ones.…

It will be impossible to use any man-made lighting during this darkness, except blessed candles.…

Recall that even at Lourdes the Enemy attempted a false apparition that Our Blessed Mother ended with a glance in his direction.

I have been curious about how we light those blesses beeswax candles.

Seems like a lighter is out of the question. What about Strike Anywhere or Stormproof Matches? Yet matches are man-made and give light (We keep matches with the candles).

Incredulous · « **Reply #17 on:** November 09, 2020, 12:06:31 PM »

Quote from: StLouisIX on November 09, 2020, 11:30:28 AM

I do believe in the Seven Ages of the Church. I forget if Ven. Holzhauser talked about the Three Days of Darkness, but I know that a poem entitled “Das Lied der Linde” which is attributed to him certainly does.

I think that the Three Days of Darkness is plausible, however I am currently a bit confused on how that fits if the “Flood of Fire” described by Our Lady of Akita is also going to happen. Wouldn’t it just take only one of these events to prepare the world of the Restoration of the Church?

I posted this and other videos in that series since it examines these prophecies in the light of the mystical theology of St. John of the Cross, which is an excellent standard to go by. Though, the creator of these videos has not yet touched the more reputable prophecies yet, I appreciate that he takes the time to debunk the false ones. If we are to believe in the Three Days of Darkness, we should only go by those sources that can stand up to scrutiny.

Thanks for your response St. Louis.

Correct, I don't think Bl. Holzhauser specifically said Three Days of Darkness.

But he did make mention of an unprecedented Chastisement coming at the end of the 5th Age. Implying that it's origin would be of Divine intercession.

Today, it seems logical that a man made WWIII would be part of it, followed by a Divine clean-up.

Matthew · « **Reply #18 on:** November 09, 2020, 12:08:45 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79 on November 09, 2020, 12:02:58 PM

Recall that even at Lourdes the Enemy attempted a false apparition that Our Blessed Mother ended with a glance in his direction.

I have been curious about how we light those blesses beeswax candles.

Seems like a lighter is out of the question. What about Strike Anywhere or Stormproof Matches? Yet matches are man-made and give light (We keep matches with the candles).

Why wouldn't a lighter or regular match work? Those things "make fire" according to the normal laws of physics.

If others can't use them to make fire, it's because a miracle is being worked -- God is intervening.

If God is going to make a "wonderful distinction" between the Children of Light and the children of darkness (as he did during Old Testament times, when the Angel of Death passed over the Hebrew houses) -- why wouldn't he just let the Children of Light use regular matches?

I don't see why waterproof matches are going to be necessary -- why they would be any more likely to work -- unless it's going to be really wet!

Matto · « **Reply #19 on:** November 09, 2020, 12:10:28 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79 on November 09, 2020, 12:02:58 PM

I have been curious about how we light those blesses beeswax candles.

Yes, I wondered that also. I figured you would have to have blessed matches.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #20 on:** November 09, 2020, 12:13:48 PM »

I always thought that the 3 days of darkness was implied in Scripture. This is just my interpretation, but see below...
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In Matthew ch 24, the Apostles ask Our Lord when the end of the world will happen, and His 2nd coming. He answers:
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5For many will come in my name saying, I am Christ: and they will seduce many. 6And you shall hear of wars and rumours of wars. See that ye be not troubled. For these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; and there shall be pestilences, and famines, and earthquakes in places: 8Now all these are the beginnings of sorrows.
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29And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun shall be darkened and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of heaven shall be moved: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all tribes of the earth mourn: and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with much power and majesty. 31And he shall send his angels with a trumpet, and a great voice: and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the farthest parts of the heavens to the utmost bounds of them.
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My interpretation is that the sun/moon darkening right before Our Lord returns the 2nd time is the parallel of the prophecized "3 days of darkness" that will happen before Our Lady's triumph in our times. The former is in scripture; the latter in prophecy.
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Our times, the end of the 5th age (wars, persecutions, apparent destruction of the church) will end with the Holy Pope and Great Monarch's triumph over Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, which is ultimately Our Lady's victory and Her period of peace. The 3 days of darkness is the end of this tribulation period of the 5th age. The period of peace is the 6th age.
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The 5th/6th ages foreshadow the true end of the world, when global catholicism rebels against God, accepts the anti-christ and there is a tribulation over the whole world. This period will also have wars, persecution and the apparent destruction of the Church and it will end with Christ's 2nd coming, his Kingship over the whole world, including, the Jєωs, who will finally accept the Faith. Then there is a final peace for the Church, until the world ends.
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So, in both scenarios, there is a period of darkness. Once, right before Our Lady destroys all Her enemies through the Great Monarch's victories on the battlefield. And the Scriptural period of darkness, quoted above, right before Our Lord comes the 2nd time to destroy the antichrist and claim his victorious Kingship over the whole globe.

Matthew · « **Reply #21 on:** November 09, 2020, 12:18:42 PM »

Quote from: Matto on November 09, 2020, 12:10:28 PM

Yes, I wondered that also. I figured you would have to have blessed matches.

Do you need blessed oxygen to fuel the fire lit with the blessed match? And then blessed carbon dioxide to put it out?

I'm not mocking blessed things, but do you see my point?

I've heard the same thing, that "only blessed candles will light during the Three Days of Darkness" but I've also heard, just as often, that they will only light in the homes of the Just. So you can't lose your prep store of blessed candles to some satanist who raids your home, and now his house will be filled with light. They're not transferable like canned goods, ammunition or other neutral supplies.

But while I've heard about "blessed candles" all the time in the context of the Three Days of Darkness, that is where the chain ends. I have never heard about any need for blessed matches, blessed oxygen to fuel the fire, blessed friction to light the matches, etc.

Matthew · « **Reply #22 on:** November 09, 2020, 12:21:09 PM »

This is the kind of confusion you get with a prophecy that is literally at the lowest level of Theological Certainty: the "opinio tolerata".

The Theological Grades of Certainty

- "Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma"
by Ludwig Ott.

1. The highest degree of certainty appertains to the immediately revealed truths. The belief due to them is based on the authority of God Revealing (fides divina), and if the Church, through its teaching, vouches for the fact it a truth is contained in Revelation, one's certainty is then also based on the authority of the Infallible Teaching Authority of the Church (fides catholica). If Truths are defined by a solemn judgment of faith (definition) of the Pope or of a General Council, they are "de fide definita."
2. Catholic truths or Church doctrines, on which the infallible Teaching Authority of the Church has finally decided, are to be accepted with a faith which is based on the sole authority of the Church (fides ecclesiastica). These truths are as infallibly certain as dogmas proper.
3. A Teaching proximate to Faith (sententia fidei proxima) is a doctrine, which is regarded by theologians generally as a truth of Revelation, but which has not yet been finally promulgated as such by the Church.
4. A Teaching pertaining to the Faith, i.e., theologically certain (sententia ad fidem pertinens, i.e., theologice certa) is a doctrine, on which the Teaching Authority of the Church has not yet finally pronounced, but whose truth is guaranteed by its intrinsic connection with the doctrine of revelation (theological conclusions).
5. Common Teaching (sententia communis) is doctrine, which in itself belongs to the field of free opinions, but which is accepted by theologians generally.
6. Theological opinions of lesser grades of certainty are called probable, more probable, well-founded (sententia probabilis, probabilior, bene fundata). Those which are regarded as being in agreement with the consciousness of Faith of the Church are called pious opinions (sententia pia). The least degree of certainty is possessed by the tolerated opinion (opinio tolerata), which is only weakly founded, but which is tolerated by the Church.
With regard to the doctrinal teaching of the Church it must be well noted that not all the assertions of the Teaching Authority of the Church on questions of Faith and morals are infallible and consequently irrevocable. Only those are infallible which emanate from General Councils representing the whole episcopate and the Papal Decisions Ex Cathedra (cf D 1839). The ordinary and usual form of the Papal teaching activity is not infallible. Further, the decisions of the Roman Congregations (Holy Office, Bible Commission) are not infallible.
Nevertheless normally they are to be accepted with an inner assent which is based on the high supernatural authority of the Holy See (assensus internus supernaturalis, assensus religiosus). The so-called "silentium obsequiosum," that is "reverent silence," does not generally suffice. By way of exception, the obligation of inner agreement may cease if a competent expert, after a renewed scientific investigation of all grounds, arrives at the positive conviction that the decision rests on an error.

Cera · « **Reply #23 on:** November 09, 2020, 01:10:57 PM »

With all due respect to theologians, if I had to choose between a theologian and a person who had the approval of her Bishop, who had the stigmata, and who survived solely on the Eucharist, I'd have to go with the latter.

If someone can afford to buy the candles, and has a traditional Catholic priest who can bless them, it seems better to err on the side of prudence.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 09, 2020, 01:57:24 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on November 09, 2020, 12:18:42 PM

…I'm not mocking blessed things, but do you see my point?….

But while I've heard about "blessed candles" all the time in the context of the Three Days of Darkness, that is where the chain ends. I have never heard about any need for blessed matches, blessed oxygen to fuel the fire, blessed friction to light the matches, etc.

My point is the "~~Seven~~ Six P's." "Proper Prior Planning…."

Mark 79 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 09, 2020, 02:05:28 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on November 09, 2020, 12:21:09 PM

This is the kind of confusion you get with a prophecy that is literally at the lowest level of Theological Certainty: the "opinio tolerata".

The Theological Grades of Certainty
- "Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma"
by Ludwig Ott.
1. The highest degree of certainty appertains to the immediately revealed truths. The belief due to them is based on the authority of God Revealing (fides divina), and if the Church, through its teaching, vouches for the fact it a truth is contained in Revelation, one's certainty is then also based on the authority of the Infallible Teaching Authority of the Church (fides catholica). If Truths are defined by a solemn judgment of faith (definition) of the Pope or of a General Council, they are "de fide definita."
2. Catholic truths or Church doctrines, on which the infallible Teaching Authority of the Church has finally decided, are to be accepted with a faith which is based on the sole authority of the Church (fides ecclesiastica). These truths are as infallibly certain as dogmas proper.
3. A Teaching proximate to Faith (sententia fidei proxima) is a doctrine, which is regarded by theologians generally as a truth of Revelation, but which has not yet been finally promulgated as such by the Church.
4. A Teaching pertaining to the Faith, i.e., theologically certain (sententia ad fidem pertinens, i.e., theologice certa) is a doctrine, on which the Teaching Authority of the Church has not yet finally pronounced, but whose truth is guaranteed by its intrinsic connection with the doctrine of revelation (theological conclusions).
5. Common Teaching (sententia communis) is doctrine, which in itself belongs to the field of free opinions, but which is accepted by theologians generally.
6. Theological opinions of lesser grades of certainty are called probable, more probable, well-founded (sententia probabilis, probabilior, bene fundata). Those which are regarded as being in agreement with the consciousness of Faith of the Church are called pious opinions (sententia pia). The least degree of certainty is possessed by the tolerated opinion (opinio tolerata), which is only weakly founded, but which is tolerated by the Church.
With regard to the doctrinal teaching of the Church it must be well noted that not all the assertions of the Teaching Authority of the Church on questions of Faith and morals are infallible and consequently irrevocable. Only those are infallible which emanate from General Councils representing the whole episcopate and the Papal Decisions Ex Cathedra (cf D 1839). The ordinary and usual form of the Papal teaching activity is not infallible. Further, the decisions of the Roman Congregations (Holy Office, Bible Commission) are not infallible.
Nevertheless normally they are to be accepted with an inner assent which is based on the high supernatural authority of the Holy See (assensus internus supernaturalis, assensus religiosus). The so-called "silentium obsequiosum," that is "reverent silence," does not generally suffice. By way of exception, the obligation of inner agreement may cease if a competent expert, after a renewed scientific investigation of all grounds, arrives at the positive conviction that the decision rests on an error.

I remember posting these pages from Denziger to treat one of Meg's anti-sede/pro-Poche Tourette's convulsions.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 09, 2020, 02:15:02 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on November 09, 2020, 12:08:45 PM

Why wouldn't a lighter or regular match work? Those things "make fire" according to the normal laws of physics.

"man-made"?

Quote from: Matthew on November 09, 2020, 12:08:45 PM

If others can't use them to make fire, it's because a miracle is being worked -- God is intervening.

If God is going to make a "wonderful distinction" between the Children of Light and the children of darkness (as he did during Old Testament times, when the Angel of Death passed over the Hebrew houses) -- why wouldn't he just let the Children of Light use regular matches?

As in the locutions of Akita, so too with my reading about the Three Days—some good will die with the wicked. It is not a simple as "light v. dark."

Also, I did not express a theological certitude and anathematize all other opinions. I merely mentioned that I have wondered about lighting the blessed beeswax candles. How far does the "man-made light" problem go? I do not know.

Quote from: Matthew on November 09, 2020, 12:08:45 PM

I don't see why waterproof matches are going to be necessary -- why they would be any more likely to work -- unless it's going to be really wet!

Have you tried to find and buy Strike Anywhere matches?
Old style is hard (nigh impossible) to find, new style have tiny crumbly tips compared with those of decades past, and the old style are bloody expensive. The last time I saw the old-style quality, one box was $50 [sic] on Amazon. Now all you can get are the wimpy "green" version.
The "stormproof" matches are cheaper (though you get fewer), more robust, and burn longer.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #27 on:** November 09, 2020, 02:26:54 PM »

Quote from: Cera on November 09, 2020, 01:10:57 PM

If someone can afford to buy the candles, and has a traditional Catholic priest who can bless them, it seems better to err on the side of prudence.

I know nothing of the religious provenance of this site's owners, but they have a selection of 100% beeswax candles for as little as $7.95: https://beeswaxco.com/

As for blessed matches, oxygen, and friction… Shlomo is havink a fire sale. Oy veh.

Yeti · « **Reply #28 on:** November 09, 2020, 02:58:55 PM »

Quote from: Incredulous on November 09, 2020, 07:29:48 AM

Let me first ask: Do you believe in the concept of the Seven Ages of the Church?

The Three Days of Darkness is a spiritual consolation because the 5th Age of the Church will end and the world will be reset by Jesus Christ.

Anyone who survives will be Catholic or have such Fear of the Lord, they will become Catholic.

If you don't believe in it, I feel sorry for you, because it means you lack confidence in Our Lord, the Saints and our reputable Catholic mystics.

Without a Divine reset, you're vision of the The Sixth Age of the Church and our near future would seem to equate to judaic depair?

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Seven Ages of the Church? Is that the idea based on the letters to the various churches that were dictated to St. John in the Apocalypse? According to the analysis I read about that, by Cardinal Billot, we are in the second to last letter right now, and the last letter is the one to the angel of Laodicea, which is Greek for "judgment of the nations". Take one guess what you think that refers to!
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EDIT: typo

andy · « **Reply #29 on:** November 21, 2020, 09:52:17 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on November 09, 2020, 11:32:08 AM

Or in between, where her mind and active imagination are playing tricks on her.

Or having fun.

Author Topic: There Will Be No Three Days of Darkness (Read 2170 times)

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