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« on: August 07, 2013, 06:42:21 AM »
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  • In these dark times it is difficult to know what to do. Instinct tells us that the novus ordo church is wrong, and various documents in church history contradict the take over by the modernists, But almost all of what was the pre Vatican 2 church has gone down the road of modernism. If so many of the church preferred the betrayal of tradition, then has the church gone down the road of heresy, or has it ceased to be the church?

    I am still learning on the subject but I do not know if the NO church is valid, and so I enquire on what our blessed mother said regarding the church and Vatican 2. Please quote the Virgin Mary on topics that give heavenly insight into what happened to the Catholic church.
    Crux Sacra Sit Mihi Lux! Ne Draco Sit Mihi Dux!

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    « Reply #1 on: August 07, 2013, 08:40:40 AM »
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    You're probably asking for the content of the Third Secret.  But that
    has been suppressed by the same perpetrators who have foisted
    Vat.II upon the whole Church.  And the reason that's the case is that
    if we were to know the content of the Third Secret we would know
    that Vat.II is a can of worms.  So of course, the advocates of Vat.II,
    such as PEB16, would be bent on suppressing such problematic
    pronouncements of Our Lady!

    It's a bit surreal to see Pope Francis practically dragging PEB16 into
    chapels dedicated to Our Lady to pray.  It's as if PEB16 wouldn't
    have ever gone there on his own, but now he goes there in order
    to appease his successor, somehow.

    At La Salette, France (1846), Our Lady said that Rome would
    lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist.
     But there
    are not a few so-called defenders of the Faith today who deny that
    she ever said that.  There was at first Church approval of La Salette,
    which included that sentence, but some years later, a kind of
    backtracking happened and an 'updated' version came out that was
    curiously missing that one sentence.  

    Regarding Fatima (1917, 1925, 1929), Freemasons have tried to
    suppress the entire thing.

    The message of Akita, Japan has not received much notice, even
    though all the key elements of authenticity are there, including the
    fact that the local bishop approved it. And that happened in 1973.

    You don't have to be a Freemason to be complicit in helping them
    to achieve their goals.  They have quite a history of spreading their
    errors outside of their own ranks, such that even outsiders who have
    no regard for Freemasonry or even contempt for them will
    nonetheless do their dirty work for them, and that's fine with the
    Masons;  so long as their ends are achieved, it matters not how it's
    done.

    You ought to listen to Fr. Hewko's sermon from a few days ago, on
    Aug. 3rd, in Boston KY:  post with link to the download.



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    « Reply #2 on: August 07, 2013, 02:40:37 PM »
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  • She said at LaSalette, “Rome will lose the Faith and become the Seat of Antichrist”

    The Bible says in Luke, "Yet when the Son of Man comes, will He find, do you think, Faith on the earth?"

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    « Reply #3 on: August 07, 2013, 02:55:03 PM »
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  • If rome will lose the faith, when can it be judged to have lost the faith? because this heresy / apostacy is only going to get more and more extreme until the novus ordo looks like traditional!

    What about the vision of pope Leo 13 where he heard the devil and Jesus talking about the church? God said he would give the devil his 75 years I think to see if he could destroy the church. It is not 75 years since Vatican 2 but its almost over, it will end.
    Crux Sacra Sit Mihi Lux! Ne Draco Sit Mihi Dux!

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    « Reply #4 on: August 07, 2013, 03:01:06 PM »
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  • Rome already lost the Faith, if you are going to wait till a true Pope comes along to realize that, you might die wandering around the empty tabernacles where God has absented Himself.

    Why lose out on the merits of Jesus Christ, you need His grace now.  The Bible says, "leave the Harlot."


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    « Reply #5 on: August 07, 2013, 03:06:12 PM »
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  • Matthew 24 and Christ refers the apostles to Chapter 12 Daniel.  Chapt 12. states that  the Precious Blood, the sacrifice will come to an end and how many days= over 3 years.  this is in the commentaries.  Because the New Order is exactly that, we are very close to these times, no sacrifice. We are in tribulation.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 07, 2013, 09:13:31 PM »
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  • You can check the prophecies of Our Lady of Good Success on the
    Traditioninaction.org site.  There are prophecies pertaining to our
    times that have been approved by the Church.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 08, 2013, 01:43:13 AM »
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  • The third secret was repressed because it foretold Vatican II and the abominations that followed. We are living in the last days. The ultimate chastisement is soon to beupon us.

    TThat's why it is our obligation to seek the truth. To seek the true sacraments. To know Jesus in the most Blessed Sacrament. Because the new church forgot him long ago.

    Pax
    Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!


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    « Reply #8 on: August 08, 2013, 04:16:33 AM »
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  • I always get heat if I suggest these things, because of the "gates of Hell shall not prevail". Funny how ppl seem to ignore that the Church isn't merely the earthly 'Church Militant', but also (and maybe primarily) the Church Suffering and the Church Triumphant. That truth is mocked by the conciliar church, so I figure there's no way the demonic can prevail against what they can't see. I think we may be what's left as the tail end of what started with the first Pentecost, which also started small. (Someone had to be it — the last of the faithful on earth.)

    At least we can do our own Baptisms if worse comes to worst, and that's something; I also tend to think that we'll get special graces from the Saints when the proverbial well runs dry, as long as we pray and keep our wits about us. I've even steeled myself that I might not get last rites when the time comes (because it wasn't a cakewalk getting a proper priest for others' last rites and funeral Masses; it felt more like moving a mountain to get it done properly). So I believe in Heaven more than the world I see; I try to walk with the Saints as if I'm already there.
    Legem credendi, lex statuit supplicandi

    +JMJ

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    « Reply #9 on: August 11, 2013, 11:49:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    You can check the prophecies of Our Lady of Good Success on the
    Traditioninaction.org site.  There are prophecies pertaining to our
    times that have been approved by the Church.


    Our Lady of Good Success warned us about the crisis:

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