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Re: The Upcoming Burke-Bergoglio Battle over the Knights of Malta
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2017, 07:34:32 PM »
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  • This is like discussing a fight within another religion. The Knights of Malta are part of the Vatican II religion. 
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    Re: The Upcoming Burke-Bergoglio Battle over the Knights of Malta
    « Reply #31 on: April 28, 2017, 04:33:32 AM »
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  • This is like discussing a fight within another religion. The Knights of Malta are part of the Vatican II religion.
    They are part of the Catholic  Church. 


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    Re: The Upcoming Burke-Bergoglio Battle over the Knights of Malta
    « Reply #32 on: April 28, 2017, 04:52:29 AM »
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  • As leaders of the Knights of Malta prepare to elect a new grand master, contending factions have put forward radically different explanations for the dispute that caused a crisis in the ancient fraternal order.
    CWN has obtained internal docuмents, circulated widely among members of the Knights of Malta, showing that the chancellor of the Order, Albrecht von Boeselager, was aware that the Order’s charity, Malteser International, had been involved in the distribution of contraceptives, and that an inquiry concluded that the policies of Malteser International were “inconsistent with the teaching of the Catholic Church.” The docuмents also show that Pope Francis demanded action to end that involvement.
    In January of this year, Fra Matthew Fessing, the grand master of the Order, responded to the Pope’s direction by demanding Boeselager’s resignation. When the chancellor refused to step down, Fessing acted on his initiative to oust him. Evidently some members of the Order’s leadership believed that Fessing had overstepped his authority, and the internal docuмents report that it was “apparent that two-thirds of the Sovereign Council will not agree” to remove Boeselager.
    At this point Pope Francis intervened. He called Fessing to the Vatican. The grand master was told that he should come alone, and tell no one about the meeting. When he arrived, the Pope asked for his resignation, and Fessing obliged.
    However, some members of the Order have evidently told Fessing that he should not have resigned, and suggest that he should be re-elected to his former post. Earlier this week it was revealed that Archbishop Angelo Becciu, named by Pope Francis as a special delegate to supervise changes in the Knights of Malta, had ordered Fessing not to attend the April 29 session at which the new grand master will be elected. Nevertheless Fessing has arrived in Rome, apparently intent on participating in the vote. Edward Pentin of the National Catholic Register reports that the Vatican may have rescinded the order for him to stay away, perhaps because Fessing’s attendance could be required for a valid vote.

    Informed sources within the Order say that the April 29 vote will reflect a bitter struggle for control of the Knights of Malta, with the German branch—heavily supported by the Vatican—likely to win control. But some members remain concerned about the direction the German leaders of the Order might take. Those concerns reflect both the dispute about contraceptive distribution and the involvement of the German branch in the acceptance of a large bequest from a shadowy anonymous donor.
    A report commissioned by the order concluded that Malteser International, under Boeselager’s administration, became involved in contraceptive distribution, and concealed evidence of that involvement from the international leadership. Even after acknowledging the problem, the inquiry found, Malteser International continued to base its policies on assumptions that contraceptive use is an acceptable means of spacing births, that condoms could be used to prevent the spread of sɛҳuąƖly transmitted diseases, that young people should be educated about contraceptives as an option, and in general that Catholic moral teachings may be disregarded if medical evidence weighs against them.
    However, the dispute about contraceptives could eventually be seen as a secondary issue, in light of the questions arising from the acceptance of a $120 million donation to Malteser International. The donation comes from a trust that has been carefully set up to conceal the identity of the original donor, and the trust itself has been involved in litigation—with the Order’s charity once among its adversaries—over the handling of the funds. The most implacable critics of von Boeselager and the German branch of the Knights argue that accepting the questionable gift is evidence of corruption within the Order, and that revelations about the source could eventually bring disgrace to the Knights and to the Vatican.

    Oddly, when Pope Francis set up a commission of five people to investigate the dispute between Fessing and von Boeselager, three of the members had some substantial involvement in the acceptance and/or administration of the anonymous gift. That fact that has reinforced concerns among some Knights that the Vatican had stacked the deck in favor of the German branch.

    http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=31415

    There is obviously more to this than Cardinal Burke. 
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    Re: The Upcoming Burke-Bergoglio Battle over the Knights of Malta
    « Reply #33 on: April 28, 2017, 04:53:56 AM »
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  • I think all of this is adults acting like children. 
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    Re: The Upcoming Burke-Bergoglio Battle over the Knights of Malta
    « Reply #34 on: April 28, 2017, 08:26:33 AM »
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  • They are part of the Catholic  Church.
    The Vatican II church is not the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is truth, not sometimes truth and sometimes error and heresy. Not the majority of the time error and sometimes truth.

    Rat poison is 99% nutritious food.

    Stay in a state of sanctifying grace by going to frequent confession and mass, do the rosary every day, wear the Brown Scapular and live as if you will die tomorrow, and do not waiver from that life no matter what any priest, bishop, pope teaches you by bad example. 
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    Re: The Upcoming Burke-Bergoglio Battle over the Knights of Malta
    « Reply #35 on: April 28, 2017, 09:35:56 AM »
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  • Pope St. Pius X (1835-1914)
     “Who can fail to see that society is at the present time, more than in any past age, suffering from a terrible and deep-rooted malady which, developing every day and eating into its inmost being, is dragging it to destruction? You understand, Venerable Brethren, what this disease is—apostasy from God… When all this is considered there is good reason to fear lest this great perversity may be as it were a foretaste, and perhaps the beginning of those evils which are reserved for the last days; and that there may be already in the world the ‘Son of Perdition’ [Antichrist] of whom the Apostle speaks.”

     "They want them [the Modernists] to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses. But they should be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made withcharity: it is a struggle, a duel. If Our Lord were not terrible, He would not have given an example in this too. See how he treated the Philistines, the sowers of error, the wolves in sheep's clothing, the traders: He scourged them with whips!"
     
     "The true friends of the people are neither the revolutionaries nor the innovators. They are the traditionalists." Letter on the Sillon, August 25, 1910
     
     "Let us not set foot in the opposing camp, because we would thus be giving the enemy a proof of our weakness, which the enemy would try to interpret as a sign of weakness and complicity."
     
     "The greatest obstacle in the apostolate of the Church is the timidity, or rather the cowardice, of the faithful."
     
     "Attempting to reconcile our Faith with the modern mentality leads not only to weakening of that Faith, but to its total destruction."
     
     "In our time more than ever before, the greatest asset of the liars is the cowardice and weakness of good men, and all the vigor of Satan's reign is due to the easy-going weakness of Catholics.... And this reproach can be leveled at the weak and timid Catholics of all countries." Beatification of Joan of Arc, December 13, 1898
     
     "Henceforth the enemy of the Church is no longer outside the Church; he is now within." Encyclical Esupremi apostolatus, October 4, 1903
     "One of the primary obligations assigned by Christ to the office committed to Us of feeding the Lord's flock is that of guarding with the greatest vigilance the Deposit of Faith delivered to the Saints, rejecting the profane novelties of words, and the gainsaying of knowledge falsely so-called.... We may no longer keep silent [against the Modernists], lest we should seem to fail in our essential duty." Encyclical Letter Pascendi Dominici Gregis, September 8, 1907, Sec. 1
     
    "The partisans of errors are to be sought not only among the Church's open enemies; but, what is to be most dreaded and deplored, in her very bosom, and are the more mischievous the less they keep in the open. We allude, Venerable Brethren, to many who belong to the Catholic laity, and what is much more sad, to the ranks of the priesthood itself, thoroughly imbued with the poisonous doctrines taught by the enemies of the Church." Encyclical Letter Pascendi Dominici Gregis, September 8, 1907
     
     "Modernists vent all their bitterness and hatred on Catholics who zealously fight the battles of the church. There is no species of insult which they do not heap upon them, but their usual course is to charge them with ignorance or obstinacy. When an adversary rises up against them with an erudition and force that renders them redoubtable, they seek to make a conspiracy of silence around him to nullify the effects of his attack." Encyclical Letter Pascendi Dominici Gregis, September 8, 1907
     
     "For Catholics, nothing will remove the authority of the Second Council of Nicaea, where it condemns those who dare, after the impious fashion of heretics to deride ecclesiastical traditions, to invent novelties of some kind or to endeavor by malice or craft to overthrow any one of the legitimate traditions of the Catholic Church." Encyclical Letter Pascendi Dominici Gregis, September 8, 1907
     
     "In their [the Modernists'] books, one finds some things that might well be approved by a Catholic, but on turning over the page, one is confronted by other things that might well have been dictated by a Rationalist." Encyclical Letter Pascendi Dominici Gregis, September 8, 1907
     
     "They lay the ax not to the branches and shoots, but to the very root, that is, to the faith and its deepest fibers. And once having struck at this root of immortality, they proceed to diffuse poison through the whole tree so that there is no part of the Catholic truth which they leave untouched, none that they do not strive to corrupt. Further, none is more skillful, none more astute than they, in the employment of a thousand noxious devices, for they play the double part of rationalist and Catholic, and this so craftily that they easily lead the unwary into error; and as audacity is their chief characteristic, there is no conclusion of any kind from which they shrink or which they do not thrust forward with pertinacity and assurance." Encyclical Letter Pascendi Dominici Gregis, September 8, 1907
     
     "The present wickedness of the world is only the beginning of the sorrows which must take place before the end of the world."
     
     Pope St. Pius X said: "All the strength of Satan's reign is due to the easygoing weakness of Catholics."
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    Re: The Upcoming Burke-Bergoglio Battle over the Knights of Malta
    « Reply #36 on: April 28, 2017, 04:56:37 PM »
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  • I note that Fra Festing is no longer excluded from the election. Apparently it was advised that if Fra Festing were not there, the new election would not be valid. It is not a moderation, just a slight procedural adjustment in order to complete the annexation of the Knights of Malta. This thing is why Bishop Fellay needs to be so careful.

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    Re: The Upcoming Burke-Bergoglio Battle over the Knights of Malta
    « Reply #37 on: April 29, 2017, 11:53:44 PM »
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  •  The ancient Knights of Malta religious order on Saturday elected a temporary leader during a period of reform after the last grand master was effectively ousted by Pope Francis.

    The secret ballot by 56 knights eligible to vote means the order will continue a period of Vatican-mandated reform before electing a grand master to replace Fra' Matthew Festing, who resigned in January in a dispute with the pope over the order's sovereignty.

    The new temporary leader is Fra' Giacomo Dalla Torre with the title of lieutenant of the grand master. He most recently has been the grand prior in charge of the order's Rome chapter.

    Knights garbed in black robes gathered for a Mass inside the order's Villa Magistrale on Rome's Aventine Hill ahead of the secret balloting. Knights eligible to cast ballots must choose a leader from a pool of people who, according to the order's rules, must have taken religious vows of poverty, obedience and chastity and hail from noble lineage.

    The planned reforms are expected to broaden eligibility in the next election.

    The Vatican took over the sovereign lay Catholic order after a dispute over condoms led to the resignation of Festing, who traveled to Rome for the election in defiance of the pontiff.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/knights-malta-vote-leader-papal-dispute-092440801.html


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    Re: The Upcoming Burke-Bergoglio Battle over the Knights of Malta
    « Reply #38 on: April 30, 2017, 10:16:40 PM »
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  • .
    It's interesting that all the fur is flying over marriage, procrative practices and sex identity, when the principal heresy afoot today, as has been the case since the 1940's, is EENS (extra ecclesiam nulla salus).
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    So long as the Vatican continues to pursue this heretical lie (that there is salvation outside the Church) we will continue to have a CRISIS.
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    This year is the 100th anniversary of Our Lady of Fatima, who gave us grave warning regarding "the dogma of the Faith," in the first sentence of the Third Secret of Fatima, "'In Portugal the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved,' etc." (The "etc." was added by Sister Lucia of Fatima, which represents the core of the Third Secret which is still being kept from public view. But politicians and heretics cannot silence Our Lady. Her words will be made known, eventually.
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    All that remains to be seen is how many nations will be annihilated before the Third Secret is revealed.
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    My priest gave a very interesting sermon today, in which he said: 


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    The Catholic Church does not subsist in ANYTHING.
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    The Church IS. It is not part of any larger thing. The Church is its own entity, outside of which there is no salvation. Period.

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    Re: The Upcoming Burke-Bergoglio Battle over the Knights of Malta
    « Reply #39 on: May 01, 2017, 11:48:49 PM »
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  • .
    It's interesting that all the fur is flying over marriage, procrative practices and sex identity, when the principal heresy afoot today, as has been the case since the 1940's, is EENS (extra ecclesiam nulla salus).
    .
    So long as the Vatican continues to pursue this heretical lie (that there is salvation outside the Church) we will continue to have a CRISIS.
    .
    This year is the 100th anniversary of Our Lady of Fatima, who gave us grave warning regarding "the dogma of the Faith," in the first sentence of the Third Secret of Fatima, "'In Portugal the dogma of the Faith will always be preserved,' etc." (The "etc." was added by Sister Lucia of Fatima, which represents the core of the Third Secret which is still being kept from public view. But politicians and heretics cannot silence Our Lady. Her words will be made known, eventually.
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    All that remains to be seen is how many nations will be annihilated before the Third Secret is revealed.
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    My priest gave a very interesting sermon today, in which he said:


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    Apparently there is more to this than just a question of artificial contraception. Follow the money trail and you will see what the real issues are.