Author Topic: The Upcoming Burke-Bergoglio Battle over the Knights of Malta (Read 6975 times)

poche · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2017, 02:07:17 AM »

Von Boeselager , a devout Catholic, said in a statement on Dec. 23 that he was fully behind Church teachings. He closed two projects in the developing world when he discovered condoms were being distributed but kept a third running in Myanmar for a while because closing it would have abruptly ended all basic medical services to poor people.

I think this was a question of prudence. I can see that if closing the only medical facility would end the only medical care in a developing country then I think he may have had a point, at least for a delay while figuring out a way to disrupt the condom distribution.

Geremia · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2017, 09:10:20 AM »

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The all-male top leaders of the Knights of Malta are not clerics, but they take vows of poverty, chastity and obedience to the pope.

If one of their vows is obedience to the Pope then they should not have been resisting the Vatican inquiries.

What if the "inquiries" involved pressuring them to continue condom distribution? Then certainly they could obey God over men.

Geremia · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2017, 09:12:32 AM »

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kept a third running in Myanmar for a while because closing it would have abruptly ended all basic medical services to poor people.

Wouldn't've been more prudent for him to end that program, too? Contraception is more serious than bodily disease; contraception is the death of the soul.

poche · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2017, 11:29:37 PM »

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kept a third running in Myanmar for a while because closing it would have abruptly ended all basic medical services to poor people.
Wouldn't've been more prudent for him to end that program, too? Contraception is more serious than bodily disease; contraception is the death of the soul.

Modifying it to exclude the giving out of contraceptives would have been better.

poche · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2017, 11:32:36 PM »

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The all-male top leaders of the Knights of Malta are not clerics, but they take vows of poverty, chastity and obedience to the pope.

If one of their vows is obedience to the Pope then they should not have been resisting the Vatican inquiries.
What if the "inquiries" involved pressuring them to continue condom distribution? Then certainly they could obey God over men.

I agree we should obey the law of God when it conflicts with the law of men. However if they take a promise of obedience to the Holy Father then when the Vatican at a minimum starts to ask questions about what is going on the attitude of defiance is innapropriate.