I am trying to start a TCM = Tridentine Catholic Movement.

Except none of these things have anything to do with Trent.  These problems arose due to V2 and people's responses to the Crisis.  Agree or disagree with them, they are logical problems that arise when the Church is leaderless.

If you just ignored the above list, and accepted these as theological opinions (which they are) and ignored your impulse to condemn them (you're not the church), then your movement might pick up steam.

As it is, the elephant in the room, the poison pill is V2 and the new mass.  But your list above is concerned with minor details.  You're missing the forest for the trees.

Except none of these things have anything to do with Trent.  These problems arose due to V2 and people's responses to the Crisis.  Agree or disagree with them, they are logical problems that arise when the Church is leaderless.

This is just an idea. Please think this over.

There is a way out of the current crisis. I am trying to start a TCM = Tridentine Catholic Movement.

The First Vatican Council was called but yet it never "officially" ended. It failed to condemn the most pernicious error of its time (and of our time): Marxism/Communism. It also set the stage for its inevitable "false conclusion" with Vatican II. Both councils are jointly resposible for the current Church Crisis.


The TCM will consist of strict adherence to all 19 Ecuмenical Councils, with a primary focus on The Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent. The Roman Catechism will be the primary catechism used and the following positions will be deemed "heretical":

- Rejecting the validity of the Thuc bishops (And that goes for the Palmarian clergy as well)
- Rejecting BOD/BOB (No Feeneyites)
- Accepting The Cassiciacuм Thesis (Totalism instead of Sedeprivationism)
- Rejecting the 1968 Rites of Episcopal Consecration and Priestly Ordination
- Rejecting the Non-Una cuм position
- Accepting Post-1955 Holy Week Liturgies
- Accepting Conclavism
- Rejecting Pope Pius XII's 1952 Consecration of Russia
- Rejecting the choice to be a "home-aloner"
- Accepting the claims of "Mary's Little Remnant" and it's heretical leader Richard Ibranyi
- Firmly adhering to the following errors: "Siri Theory", "Sister Lucia Impostor", "Geocentrism", "Flat Earth", "Young Earth Creationism", and "Natural Family Planning".
- Refusing to acknowledge the fact that the First Vatican Council (1869-1870) was unfinished by Pope Pius IX and all subsequent popes for over 90 years until an anti-pope claimed to "conclude" it as the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965).

While Vatican II will always be considered a false council, Vatican I will always be considered a true (but embarrassing and unsuccessful) council which led the way to Vatican II.

This is why I believe it is imperative to be a Tridentine Catholic first and foremost.

And by what authority do you plan on deeming positions you disagree with as "heretical"?  What's your master plan for enforcing such views?

Far from being a recipe for blazing a "way out of the current crisis", what you propose just amplifies the dysfunction in the trad world.

If you want to disagree with someone on an issue that hasn't been resolved by the Church, well and good.  Knock yourself out.  But you have no right to declare anything "heretical", or condemn any person or group you disagree with unless they actually reject a clear doctrine proposed by the Church for our belief. And looking through your list, only one item (possibly two, depending on how you read it) qualifies as a question of heresy/doctrine. The rest are simply practical positions you don't like.

The sheep want to save the sheepfold by usurping the authority of the shepherds.  A prime example of what happens when the shepherd has been struck... the sheep not only scatter, they go batshit crazy.

I really wish people would stay in their lane and stop trying to solve the crisis.  That's God's job, not ours.