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Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2023, 04:02:42 PM »
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  • Church experiences what Christ experienced.  Church is in passion as Christ was in passion. Christ in the Garden. Men came, fell back. Christ said, it is not my hour, not the Fathers time.  When the hour came, Christ was taken away.

    Our Lady appears to Sister Lucia in Tuy, Spain in 1929.  She said to Lucia, the hour as come to consecrate Russia. Pope Pius XI is pope at this time. He did not do it.  Our Lady said to Sister Lucia, he did in "half-measure".  Not good.  He did not say Russia, but "the world".  Is that not a mockery to God!  Is that not just totally mortal!!  Our Lady said, If he does not consecrate  he will be likened to King Louis XIII(?) of France that did not consecrate France to the Sacred Heart, as he was commanded to do.  He did not and he was dethroned and beheaded.

    In this case, possible, Pope Pius XIII in his pontificate went sour, did not do God's Command, lost his authority and Church was without a head? Possible?
    Satan begins his 100 years as of 1929-1930.  Possible, no continual Mass 3 and a half years starts about 2027? and Satan time of 100 years, ends 2030?

    My thoughts. Pope Leo XIII and Cardinal Manning thought that Pope's election is infallible, BUT, can a Pope go wrong in his pontificate. Sure.

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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #16 on: September 16, 2023, 04:17:31 PM »
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  • Yeti, you raise some good questions.  I will read the articles posted, which have similar questions as yours.

    My first thought was, Sr Lucy just wrote a 2nd edition of the 3rd Secret and gave it to someone to mail, later, at a certain time.  The 3rd Secret was not long; Sr Lucy probably had it memorized.  Or...Our Lady appeared to Sr Lucy in the 80s and said, "Here's a 3rd Secret, version 2.  Have your sister/brother mail this to person A if x, y or z doesn't happen."

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    Interesting, I didn't think of that! Yes, she could have written down another copy that no one knew about, and stashed it with someone or who knows what. Especially as the fifties started winding down and the prospects weren't looking all that great on the whole...


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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #17 on: September 16, 2023, 04:25:01 PM »
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  • Church experiences what Christ experienced.  Church is in passion as Christ was in passion. Christ in the Garden. Men came, fell back. Christ said, it is not my hour, not the Fathers time.  When the hour came, Christ was taken away.

    Our Lady appears to Sister Lucia in Tuy, Spain in 1929.  She said to Lucia, the hour as come to consecrate Russia. Pope Pius XI is pope at this time. He did not do it.  Our Lady said to Sister Lucia, he did in "half-measure".  Not good.  He did not say Russia, but "the world".  Is that not a mockery to God!  Is that not just totally mortal!!  Our Lady said, If he does not consecrate  he will be likened to King Louis XIII(?) of France that did not consecrate France to the Sacred Heart, as he was commanded to do.  He did not and he was dethroned and beheaded.

    In this case, possible, Pope Pius XIII in his pontificate went sour, did not do God's Command, lost his authority and Church was without a head? Possible?
    Satan begins his 100 years as of 1929-1930.  Possible, no continual Mass 3 and a half years starts about 2027? and Satan time of 100 years, ends 2030?

    My thoughts. Pope Leo XIII and Cardinal Manning thought that Pope's election is infallible, BUT, can a Pope go wrong in his pontificate. Sure.

    I think what you say is mostly right, especially about the "totally mortal" refusal of the Popes to fulfill Our Lady's command. Vatican II and its consummation in the Antichrist running the Counterfeit Catholic Church is the punishment for that refusal (among other related offenses to God).

    I would quibble that the 3.5 years probably starts around 2025. That would be right about the time that the Synod on Synodality changes start to be officially implemented. And (for good measure) BerGOGlio is the Antichrist, figuratively referred to as GOG (Ezekiel 38) who leads his antichristian followers, MaGOG.


    Gog shall persecute the church in the latter days. He shall be overthrown.

     1 And the word of the Lord came to me, saying:  2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Mosoch and Thubal: and prophesy of him,  3 And say to him: Thus saith the Lord God: Behold, I come against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Mosoch and Thubal.  4 And I will turn thee about, and I will put a bit in thy jaws: and I will bring thee forth, and all thy army, horses and horsemen all clothed with coats of mail, a great multitude, armed with spears and shields and swords.  5 The Persians, Ethiopians, and Libyans with them, all with shields and helmets.
    [2] "Gog": This name, which signifies hidden or covered, is taken in this place, either for the persecutors of the church of God in general, or some arch-persecutor in particular: such as Antichrist shall be in the latter days. See Apoc. 20. 8. And what is said of the punishment of Gog, is verified by the unhappy ends of persecutors.-- Ibid.
    [2] "Magog": Scythia or Tartary, from whence the Turks, and other enemies of the church of Christ, originally sprung.



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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #18 on: September 16, 2023, 05:52:27 PM »
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  • Guimaraes thinks the text was tampered with by transposing some of the words with the help of photoshop, and he made some minor changes to what it says, but this is substantially accurate.

    A few observations.

    1. This text mentions nothing about a council, which everyone thought the text would include. Indeed, it says little about what this evil pope will actually do. Guimaraes thinks the docuмent actually says the pope was telling people to praise the devil, but that's not all that much more informative.

    Atila Guimaraes is of course, fluent in Portuguese, so he had an advantage in spotting the incorrect grammar in the Message.
    He thought the message was a remnant of the original message, but it had been changed via a photostatic copy using manual scissors cut & paste technique.


    2. The message is nearly useless. The first part says basically that an evil pope will walk into an ugly church. That's it?

    Atila thought the message was horrific and understandable by any Catholic child, the Holy Father worshipping the devil.
    Who could imagine it and what would it mean for the world?

    3. Actually the message is implicitly sedevacantist, in that it says the person is an "individual who I describe as the 'holy Father' ". This is a strange way to describe the pope.

    TIA is staunchly anti-sede-vacantist, so they wouldn't promote this interpretation.



    Anyone have any thoughts on this bizarre story?
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #19 on: September 17, 2023, 10:02:02 AM »
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  • Well, reference to the "Kingdom" of Wojtyla actually lines up with the Dimond Brothers interpretation of the Popes being the kings referred to in the book of Revelation.

    When was this text originally discovered?  Allegedly written in 1944, it would be interesting to mention JP2.

    Wasn't the "church" built in Fatima some kind of Modernist abomination anyway?


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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #20 on: September 17, 2023, 10:20:18 AM »
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  • Well, reference to the "Kingdom" of Wojtyla actually lines up with the Dimond Brothers interpretation of the Popes being the kings referred to in the book of Revelation.

    When was this text originally discovered?  Allegedly written in 1944, it would be interesting to mention JP2.

    Wasn't the "church" built in Fatima some kind of Modernist abomination anyway?

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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #21 on: September 17, 2023, 10:46:18 AM »
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  • Incredulous put this up on another site. A thought came to me when I saw this post:

    And when Our Lady's Immaculate Heart triumphs... a truly converted Russia will provide the "good men with guns".

    The symbol for Russia's future prominence is the Five-pointed Star on Our Lady of Fatima's robe.

    Father Francis McGlynn, the Dominican priest and sculptor who worked under the direction of the original Sr. Lucia in 1947
    was guided by her in perfecting the famed statue of Our Lady of Fatima. 





    Our Lady of Fatima said If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred; the Holy Father will have much to suffer; various nations will be annihilated.

    Since Fatima, it is the USA that has caused wars and persecutions on Countries and Catholics worldwide.

    As we know, some popes did partly comply with this request. Russia today is probably more 'Catholic' than any other nation on Earth. Could it be that Russia will be used by God to restore the faith?

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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #22 on: September 17, 2023, 12:30:48 PM »
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  • Many will agree that the text of the Third Secret released by the Vatican in 2000 is fake. But we need to understand why they faked it and how they plan to use it in the future. It was claimed by Cardinal Sodano in 2000 that "the bishop dressed in white" referred to JPII, and so, Sodano said, the impact of the message of Fatima is all in the past. But that is not the current interpretation of the fake Third Secret, and especially the "bishop dressed in white, according to Bergoglio.

    On May 13, 2017, at the 100th year anniversary of the Fatima Apparitions in Fatima, Bergoglio declared that he was "the bishop dressed in white."

    https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2017/05/francis-in-fatima-i-am-bishop-dressed.html

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    Hail Holy Queen, blessed Virgin of Fatima, Lady of the Immaculate Heart, refuge and path that guides to God! Pilgrim of the Light that we receive from your hands, I thank God the Father that, at all times and places, acts in human history; pilgrim of the Peace that you announce here, I praise Christ, our peace, and for the world I ask for concord among all peoples; pilgrim of the Hope which the Spirit encourages, I want to be prophet and messenger so as to wash the feet of all at the same table that unites us.

    Hail Mother of Mercy, Lady of the white robe! At this place where one hundred years ago you showed all the designs of our God's mercy, I look upon your robe of light and, as bishop dressed in white [como bispo vestido de branco], I remember all those who, robed in baptismal white, want to live in God and pray the mysteries of Christ to attain peace.

    If you remember in the fake Third Secret published in 2000, the "bishop dressed in white" will be killed violently.

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    ...the Angel cried out in a loud voice: ‘Penance, Penance, Penance!'. And we saw in an immense light that is God: ‘something similar to how people appear in a mirror when they pass in front of it' a Bishop dressed in White ‘we had the impression that it was the Holy Father'. Other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious going up a steep mountain, at the top of which there was a big Cross of rough-hewn trunks as of a cork-tree with the bark; before reaching there the Holy Father passed through a big city half in ruins and half trembling with halting step, afflicted with pain and sorrow, he prayed for the souls of the corpses he met on his way; having reached the top of the mountain, on his knees at the foot of the big Cross he was killed by a group of soldiers who fired bullets and arrows at him, and in the same way there died one after another the other Bishops, Priests, men and women Religious, and various lay people of different ranks and positions. Beneath the two arms of the Cross there were two Angels each with a crystal aspersorium in his hand, in which they gathered up the blood of the Martyrs and with it sprinkled the souls that were making their way to God.

    In the message above, "the Bishop dressed white," is said to be killed (Apocalypse 13:3). But, actually, he will fake his death and appear to rise again, just as Jesus did 2000 years ago.

    Here is the (possibly figurative) account by St. Hildegard von Bingen, dictated to her by God, on the Antichrist's "pretended death":

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    "But I will die for you and to your glory, and rise again from death; and so I will deliver my people from Hell, that you may live gloriously with me in my kingdom, as that deceiver [Jesus] pretended He had done before." And he [Antichrist] will tell his beloved ones to run him through with a sword and wrap him in  a clean shroud, until the day of his resurrection. And he will delude them into thinking they are killing him, and so they will fulfill his commands. Then he will pretend to rise again, and bring out a writing as if for the salvation of souls, which is really a dire curse. And he will give this to people for a sign and command them to adore him. And if any person of faith refuses for love of My name, he will kill that person in great suffering and torture. And thus all who see and hear this will be struck with great wonder and doubtful amazement, as My beloved John shows... (Scivias, Book III, Vision 11, Section 31)

    And this also from another book of St. Hildegard called The Book of Divine Works:

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    For so too will he [Antichrist] pretend to die, as if to redeem his people by his death, and to raise himself up again to return to life. He will also have an inscription written upon the foreheads of his followers, through which to introduce into the every evil, as too the ancient serpent, after deceiving humankind, kept them captive by stoking them with lust. Through that scripture he will inspire them by magical craft to oppose baptism and the Christian name, so that they will not desire to leave him, and all will style themselves after him, just as Christians are named after Christ. (The Fathers of the Church, Mediaeval Continuation, Volume 18. St. Hildegard Von Bingen, The Book of Divine Works. Pages 469, Part III, Vision 5, Chapter 31).

    So, the "bishop dressed in white," Antipope Bergoglio, who is a kind of mirror-image [inverted] of the Holy Father, will in some way pretend to die and be recognized as a great martyr for peace among mankind. Most people will adore him and follow him after that. The Mark of the Beast ("the inscription") comes AFTER he fakes his death.


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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #23 on: September 17, 2023, 02:53:49 PM »
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  • When was this text originally discovered?  Allegedly written in 1944, it would be interesting to mention JP2.
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    All we know is when it was sent to Guimaraes, which was some time in 2010. Unfortunately this was after the gift of the piece of St. Peter's tomb to become the cornerstone of the church in Fatima in 2004; if this text could be proved to have existed before 2004, that would be a strong argument in favor of its authenticity.

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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #24 on: September 17, 2023, 02:58:32 PM »
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  • Many will agree that the text of the Third Secret released by the Vatican in 2000 is fake.

    Well, I think just about everyone on this site would agree that the 2000 text is not the third secret.


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    But we need to understand why they faked it and how they plan to use it in the future.
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    Seems obvious to me that they faked it because people wanted to know what it said, and eventually they just decided to appease everyone and release a fake text. Also, they had to release it while the (similarly) fake Sr. Lucy was stlll alive, so that she could provide (a fake) corroboration that that was the third secret. I guess by the time 2000 came around they realized she wasn't going to live forever, and they had to get this done before she died.

    By the way, as a slight grammatical point, I noticed that Guimaraes' plural form for "Sister Lucy" is not "Sister Lucies" but "Sisters Lucy". I think his term is actually the correct one. "The two Sisters Lucy." :laugh1:



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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #25 on: September 17, 2023, 03:15:06 PM »
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  • .

    All we know is when it was sent to Guimaraes, which was some time in 2010. Unfortunately this was after the gift of the piece of St. Peter's tomb to become the cornerstone of the church in Fatima in 2004; if this text could be proved to have existed before 2004, that would be a strong argument in favor of its authenticity.

    The handwriting proves that the TIA Third Secret was written by the same hand as known texts of the real Sister Lucia. What other "proof" is needed that the text existed before 2004?


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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #26 on: September 17, 2023, 04:44:49 PM »
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  • The handwriting proves that the TIA Third Secret was written by the same hand as known texts of the real Sister Lucia. What other "proof" is needed that the text existed before 2004?
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    In theory, yes. But my concern is that handwriting analysis of this nature is not an exact science, and these people are not always correct. There was a case of a forger who wrote diaries purportedly by Adolf Hitler, and copied Hitler's handwriting. These diaries fooled handwriting experts who compared them to known examples of Hitler's writing. They all agreed they were authentic. Eventually, though, they put the docuмents under ultraviolet light and found that they contained a chemical that didn't exist until the mid-50s, proving them to be a forgery.

    Unfortunately, we can't subject this docuмent to any sort of forensic analysis like that, since all we have is a photo.

    And some courts do not permit handwriting experts to testify as expert witnesses as to who wrote a particular docuмent, since such a judgment is not accurate enough to be used as evidence.

    I wish we had something more than handwriting analysis to assess this, but I don't think we do. I wonder what the email address is that this was sent from? Or if the IP address on the email could be traced? At least to the country it came from?

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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #27 on: September 17, 2023, 05:38:32 PM »
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  • Consider the source. Atila Guimarães has a shady past and has never disavowed being a "slave" to TFP cult-leader Plinio de Oliveria. Read the following docuмent from a whistleblower who left the TFP cult to find out what Guimarães beleives.

    "He believes that Plinio was considered to have the same spirit as the Madonna, because his spirit was one with the Wisdom and Immaculate Heart of Mary. Like the other "slaves" (inner-circle cult members) he referred to Plinio as "My Lord."  Like the other members of the inner circle, he recited: I am not the one who is alive but it is My Lord [Plinio] that lives in me. " . . .  Prayers were also recited to him [Plinio], as a parody of the Ave Maria. Like other members of the inner circle, Atila said his confessions not to a Catholic priest but rather to Mr. (not a "doctor" of anything) Plinio. "confessing their failings and even their sins. After the accusation, if the slave asked for a penance, Dr Plinio had the habit of giving three slaps to the face of the slave. Following this, he would impart the blessing."

    Here is the docuмent:


    Filipe de Freitas Guimarães Ablas, RG
     The following declaration was registered at the Public Archives (August 24, 1984) and published on March 14 1985 in the newspaper La Folha de Manha.
     
     I, the undersigned, Filipe de Freitas Guimarães Ablas, RG (General Registry) 3706587, SP, marital status - unmarried, living in Curitiba (Brazil), Manoel C. so Ribas, No 418, swear to be true that when I belonged to the TFP, Brazilian Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property, in 1967 I entered into a secret society of that association, known as "Sacred Slavery" [Sempre Viva], also known by its members as "Still Living".
     
     The members of this secret society have made a consecration of themselves as slaves of Dr Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira in the same sense in which St. Louis de Montfort Grignion recommended it be done for the Madonna. For this consecration, as a slave to Dr. Plinio, was used the same text drawn up by St. Louis for the consecration to Our Lady, with some adaptation. We proceeded in this manner because Dr. Plinio was considered to have the same spirit as the Madonna, because his spirit was one with the Wisdom and Immaculate Heart of Mary. The members of that society prayed every day using the following prayer of "Sacred Slavery", composed by Dr. Plinio himself:
     
     "Immaculate Heart of Mary and Wisdom, in the atmosphere of our days when all men are free, are drunk on freedom, I offer myself to you, a slave, to be like the last of the men referred to by My Lord [Plinio]. I offer myself in the atmosphere of these days in which everything speaks of naturalism, so that my life is entirely supernatural.
     
     I am not the one who is alive but it is My Lord [Plinio] that lives in me. "
     . . .
     Prayers were also recited to him [Plinio], as a parody of the Ave Maria, which incorporate the prophecies of St. Louis, St. Elias and himself:
     
     "Hail, Luigi Plinio Elia (official name of Plinio in the Holy Slavery), full of love and hate, the Blessed Virgin is with you. You are blessed among the faithful, and the fruit of your love and your hatred, which is the counterrevolution, is blessed. Oh holy Luigi Plinio Elia, father and admirable leader of counterrevolution and the Kingdom of Mary, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen. "
     
     Also recited was the rosary using the adapted 'Ave Maria'. Even the meetings began with the same 'Ave Maria', the official prayer of the Holy Slavery and with the ejaculation: "Hail, Luigi Pliny Elia, father and admirable leader of counterrevolution and the Kingdom of Mary! Hail, Luigi Pliny Elia, the faithful slave, Immaculate Heart of Wisdom and Mary!" There was also a Litany for him, the 'Doctor', and they said that the prayers had been composed by Marcos Ribeiro Dantas (slave Plinio Paul).
     
     In one of these ejaculatory prayers to Dr. Plinio it was prayed: "The forerunner of Elijah, pray for us!"
     
     Dr. Plinio imparted the blessing to his slaves. Sometimes, when they received it, they were stretched out on the floor, face upwards, and then Dr. Plinio laid his right foot on the face and gave his blessing, saying: "Benedictio Matris et Mediatricis descendat super vos et semper maneat ".
     
     The slaves of Dr. Plinio had the habit of confessing to him, confessing their failings and even their sins. After the accusation, if the slave asked for a penance, Dr Plinio had the habit of giving three slaps to the face of the slave. Following this, he would impart the blessing.
     
     The entry into "Sempre Vivente" took place by means of a ceremony that lasted several hours, in Via Alagoas, on the second floor of the house, and sometimes in other places.
     
     Dr. Plinio sat on a small throne with the habit and the mantle of the Third Order. The assistants used a habit without the mantle. The person who was about to be introduced to that company relaxed, as if dead, prostrate upon the ground in front of Dr. Plinio. At this point, from Dr. Plinio, was received the order to stand up to receive a new life and he [Plinio] intoned: "Exsurge." This meant that the person had died and was born a new man, a slave of the prophet, an Apostle of the Last Times.
     
     The person then fulfilled his consecration as a slave and delivered his whole being, material and spiritual, to Dr. Plinio. Symbolic objects were used. Dr. Plinio acquired an absolute right, as with the old slave of the Roman Law, except for the right to life and death. That is why they call it "Dominus Plinius."
     
     The ceremony continued with the feet and hands of the Prophet [Plinio] being kissed by the slave. Then, Dr. Plinio left the throne and there sat his new slave, since he was a new Plinio. Dr. Plinio kissed the feet and hands of his new slave.
     
     So, the effect was of a transforming union that took place between them; one living in the other. The slave was a new Plinio. For this reason was adopted the name of Plinio composed with that of another, of a patron and a title of Our Lady. For example, I chose to become Plinio Bernardo Dimas Longinos of Our Lady, Queen of the Holy Apostles of the Last Times. I was known as Plinio Dimas.
     
     We could not communicate with other members of TFP the existence of "Sacred Slavery," because - of course - of the nature of this secret society.
     
     The twelve first slaves were:
     
     1) Caio Vidigal Xavier da Silveira - Plinio Mário.
     2) Eduardo Barros Brotero - Plinio Eduardo.
     3) Luiz Nazareno of Assunpção Filho - Plinio Luiz.
     4) João Clá Dias Scognamiglio - Plinio Fernando.
     5) Humberto Braccesi - Plinio Cirineu.
     6) Fernando Siqueira - Plinio Bernardo.
     7) Carlos Espírito Hofmeister Poly - Plinio Jose.
      Marcos Ribeiro Dantes - Plinio Paulo.
     9) Mário Navarro da Costa - Plinio Elias.
     10) Dom Bertrand de Orleans e Bragança - Plinio Miguel.
     11) Atila Sinke Guimarães - Plinio Márcio.
     12) Becca Cosme Varella Hijo - Plinio Lázaro.
     
     
     https://ephesians511blog.com/2013/09/28/america-needs-fatima-a-cult-using-the-fatima-name/
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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #28 on: September 17, 2023, 05:47:42 PM »
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  • Consider the source. Atila Guimarães has a shady past and has never disavowed being a "slave" to TFP cult-leader Plinio de Oliveria. 

    Atila Guimarães is not the source, as you can see if you read the first post related to the message. He was initially skeptical about the message, considering that it might even be an April Fools joke.

    https://www.traditioninaction.org/Questions/B352_Secret.html
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    One of our readers from Portugal sent us the facsimile of a handwritten text that could be the text of the Third Secret of Fatima.

    This unsigned text supposedly was written by Sister Lucy in her Convent of Tuy on September 1, 1944 or April 1, 1944 - it is not clear whether the number indicating the month is 9 or 4. A fingerprint of Sister Lucy was placed on the bottom of the page as a guarantee of its authenticity. Some unidentified person who had access to this docuмent released a photo of it very recently.

    We are posting this facsimile below for the perusal of TIA readers. It is followed by a typed text in Portuguese and our English translation of it.

    We do not assert that this is undoubtedly the true Third Secret. We post it as an invitation for our readers to discuss it and seek the opinion of experts in order to find whether this docuмent is authentic or not.

    Sadly, there is a hypothesis that should not be excluded: If the date is April 1, then some priest or even bishop might be playing an April Fools' joke, spreading an adulterated text to amuse himself. This would be a sin against the Second Commandement, we believe, since it would be taking the name of God's Blessed Mother in vain. But, in these times of post-conciliar lack of seriousness, TIA has already experienced something of this kind (click here).


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    Re: The TIA 3rd Secret of Fatima
    « Reply #29 on: September 17, 2023, 08:50:01 PM »
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  • He was initially skeptical about the message, considering that it might even be an April Fools joke.
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    Yeah, I don't know. That seems like an unlikely theory. This would be a pretty complicated April Fool's joke.

    What gets me is that this docuмent and the whole story behind it is too implausible to be real, and at the same time it would be too difficult to fake if it's not real.

    This just blows my mind.