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Offline Giovanni Berto

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Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2023, 08:43:59 PM »
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  • Horrible.

    But, pray tell, what in the world is "capen gas"?

    Assuming that the writer meant to say "capon", the closest I can come to it is "chicken farts".  (Yes, chickens do that.  "Today I learned...".)

    Must be some idiom in Portuguese.

    "Capenga" is one single word. It means something or someone that falters, limps.

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #31 on: December 16, 2023, 04:00:00 PM »
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  • Thank you Cera for exposing this.

    I just read both pages 36 and 37. I find it extremely disturbing and cultish. Frankly, I don’t know how any Catholic could endorse such sycophantic behavior. I only read two pages and it made me want to vomit!
    I agree with you, but I must confess that it's been a few years since I read it, primarily because I thought TIA would be so embarassed by the worship of Mr. Plinio de Oliveira (who never received a doctorate in any subject) that they would have removed it by now.

    I find it hard to believe that Atila G., the founder of Tradition in Action (TIA) the offshoot of TFP (Tradition, Family Property), STILL has this blasphemy on his purportedly Catholic website.

    This:
    In the 51 years that I have roamed on this earth, I did not know a better image of God than my
    relationship with Dr. Plinio. Neither my admiration for Medieval Civilization, nor my enthusiasm
    for Chivalry or the magnificent architecture of the cathedrals, nor the elevated analysis of the
    organic regimes of yesteryear, nor my reverential respect for Charlemagne, nor the devotion I
    have to certain Saints – Michael the Archangel, Elias, Gregory VII, John the Evangelist, Augustine,
    Thomas Aquinas and especially Louis Grignion de Montfort, nor my complete affinity with the
    Holy Inquisition and the silent veneration that I pay to the mystery of the Liturgy gave me any-
    thing comparable. Even the contemplation of God's plans in History, of which I am an aficionado
    admirer, did not bring me the broadness of panoramas and the sense of the divine that my rela-
    tionship with Dr. Plinio provided.
    Not that such a relationship was perfect on my part – far be it from me to hold such pretensions
    – but on his part it was. And since there are certain supernatural realities that are expressed only
    in a relationship, the fact that they were perfect on his part and that I did not oppose great resis-
    tance to him on my part, they could flow normally, reflecting what God wanted them to reflect
    for me and, perhaps, also for Dr. Plinio. It was through such a relationship that I learned the true
    love for the Catholic Church, which he taught me to venerate with all my soul.
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    It was through this means that I came to know Wisdom, reflected in him, but in so translucent a
    way that in him I could glimpse the Eternal Wisdom, the Subsistent Truth, the Second Person of
    the Holy Trinity. It was through this means that I understood Grandeur – a man who assumes
    everything good that existed in History and, by declaring himself in the state of counter-attack,
    causes the good of the past to be reborn and opens the doors of the future.
    It was through my relationship with him that I understood Magnanimity, this new name for the
    love of God by which the bountifulness of the superior naturally leads to the detachment and joy
    of the inferior. A virtue that makes it easy to understand what was and what is the disinterest of
    the Good Shepherd who gives His life for His sheep. It was in my relationship with him that I
    discovered Holy Wrath against the enemies of the Catholic name, a wrath proper to those truly
    innocent men, true lovers of the Holy City. Here also I understood what Courage is, a lofty, ele-
    vated and disdainful fearlessness in face of the bad, the revolutionary, the conspirators who plot
    the destruction of Christendom. It was in him that I learned what certainty of victory is and, in a
    word, the unshakeable certainty of the full realization of his vocation and, permit me to say, of
    mine as well.
    This relationship, with which Our Lady and he wanted to reward me, is sacred to me. The great
    Moses with his burning bush on the top of Sinai does not make me jealous. For if he were there
    with God for 40 days, I have been with Dr. Plinio for 33 years. And in this relationship I see, per-
    haps, more of the divine presence than he before the sacred bush.
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary


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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #32 on: December 16, 2023, 06:50:24 PM »
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  • "Capenga" is one single word. It means something or someone that falters, limps.
    Oh, okay, I thought it might be expressing the ultimate in humility, that the person uttering the "prayer" is willing to equate himself with something foul.

    Seriously.  I had no idea how to dissect this.

    Learn something new every day.

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #33 on: December 16, 2023, 08:16:51 PM »
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  • Oh, okay, I thought it might be expressing the ultimate in humility, that the person uttering the "prayer" is willing to equate himself with something foul.

    Seriously.  I had no idea how to dissect this.

    Learn something new every day.

    You were not far off. The general meaning has to do with humility, just not in this more extreme sense.