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Offline Meg

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Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2023, 09:09:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gunter on December 21, 2023, 09:07:30 AM
    If Francis only wore LGBT rainbow vestments, would we simply photoshop papal garb on him before his picture is hung up in the vestibule?

    Who is "we" in your question above? 
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #31 on: December 21, 2023, 09:14:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 21, 2023, 09:09:18 AM
    Who is "we" in your question above?
    Societies that hang a picture of Francis in their chapels and who seek to get novus ordo approval. 
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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #32 on: December 21, 2023, 09:16:25 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gunter on December 21, 2023, 09:14:24 AM
    Societies that hang a picture of Francis in their chapels and who seek to get novus ordo approval.

    Okay, and why would societies want to hang a picture of Francis wearing rainbow LGBT vestments? 
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #33 on: December 21, 2023, 09:19:12 AM »
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    • Like I said just avoid the obvious evil by covering it up.  It's a intellectual play on the condition of the novus ordo hierarchy. 
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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #34 on: December 21, 2023, 09:29:58 AM »
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    • And this freak singer has Celestia (Celeste) "the heavens" tattooed right above his navel.  Even if it were the Vienna Boys' Choir singing, part of the money goes to Francis and company.  I wonder if its not a mortal sin to give any money to these perverted heretics?  When I went to Rome ten years ago I paid the fee to make of the tour of the Vatican Museum, and the artwork is exquisite, but part of me said, "Gosh, a part of this money is going to support Pope Francis and his perverted friends."   
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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #35 on: December 21, 2023, 09:39:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gunter on December 21, 2023, 09:19:12 AM
    Like I said just avoid the obvious evil by covering it up.  It's a intellectual play on the condition of the novus ordo hierarchy.

    It's true that the SSPX, for example, doesn't say much about the evil deeds of Francis. However, the SSPX has ALWAYS hung a photo of the pope in their chapels. ALWAYS. Are they supposed to stop this practice now, just because of the latest Francis' outrage? JP2 and B16 committed outrages too, but still, their photos still hung in the chapels. Maybe they don't want to be thought of as sedevacantists or schismatics?
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #36 on: December 21, 2023, 09:51:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 21, 2023, 09:39:53 AM
    It's true that the SSPX, for example, doesn't say much about the evil deeds of Francis. However, the SSPX has ALWAYS hung a photo of the pope in their chapels. ALWAYS. Are they supposed to stop this practice now, just because of the latest Francis' outrage? JP2 and B16 committed outrages too, but still, their photos still hung in the chapels. Maybe they don't want to be thought of as sedevacantists or schismatics?
    Loyalty to the crucified Savior is the measure.   Bergoglio should have a unbleached candle on either side of his photo.
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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #37 on: December 21, 2023, 09:57:50 AM »
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    • It is perhaps a small grace that the neosspx chapel I attend has never displayed an image of Bergoglio.
    Archbishop Lefebvre’s portrait is prominently visible.

    If Bergy’s mug were to show up, it would not last long. ;)
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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #38 on: December 21, 2023, 09:58:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gunter on December 21, 2023, 09:51:00 AM
    Loyalty to the crucified Savior is the measure.  Bergoglio should have a unbleached candle on either side of his photo.

    Our Crucified Savior suffered much during his torture and death on the Cross, for us. The SSPX is not denying that by hanging a photo of the Pope in their chapels. God created one Church to uphold his true teaching. That Church is now occupied by a Modernist heretical sect. The Catholic Church is suffering, but not dead. We await a time when God will see fit to restore her. But we will not admit that the Church is dead, even if she is headed by a terrible modernist. Our Faith is stronger than evil.
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #39 on: December 21, 2023, 10:17:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: Gunter on December 21, 2023, 09:51:00 AM
    Loyalty to the crucified Savior is the measure.  Bergoglio should have a unbleached candle on either side of his photo.
    What do you mean by this?
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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #40 on: December 21, 2023, 10:19:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 21, 2023, 09:39:53 AM
    However, the SSPX has ALWAYS hung a photo of the pope in their chapels. ALWAYS. Are they supposed to stop this practice now, just because of the latest Francis' outrage?

    They're supposed to have stopped this practice long ago because they put up a picture and pretend that this suffices to remain in communion with what they claim to be the Holy See.
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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #41 on: December 21, 2023, 10:24:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on December 21, 2023, 10:19:19 AM
    They're supposed to have stopped this practice long ago because they put up a picture and pretend that this suffices to remain in communion with what they claim to be the Holy See.

    I have no idea of what you are talking about above. Can you re-phrase it? 
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #42 on: December 21, 2023, 10:51:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on December 21, 2023, 10:17:19 AM
    What do you mean by this?
    The man is spiritually dead.  Like a funeral. 
    Don't believe it Meg it's still true.
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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #43 on: December 21, 2023, 11:51:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 21, 2023, 10:24:28 AM
    I have no idea of what you are talking about above. Can you re-phrase it?

    What he wrote is as clear as day. I’d have no idea why you can’t understand it.
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    Re: The SSPX responds to Fiducia supplicans
    « Reply #44 on: December 21, 2023, 11:58:42 AM »
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    • A photo of the Heretic in Chief is so passe.  They should move on to this:



    Pope Francis Cardboard Cutout (lifesizecustomcutouts.com)
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