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I notice this term being tossed around this ENTIRE forum lately;  "Dogmatic Sedevacantists" and frankly I admit I am confused with the definition of it.  I think different people here have different ideas of what it actually means.  

What does it mean to you or are you just posting the term because ... it is popular to do so?  

My own definition of the term means if you are not a sede when you die you are ripe for Hell, no doubt about it. Who here says that?

The only Dogmatic Sedevacantist I know of would be the Dimond people, or another example of "Dogmatic Hellbound judging" fits the Feeneyites position.  

To explain sedevacantism or to defend it is not being Dogmatic! I think others like to toss it around  because they feel guilty about some issue they do not want to face.  

Maybe this post is taking this thread in a different direction but it still fits the Title of the thread.  

The dogmatic sedevacantists, like LoE and even yourself for example...

I refer to my post above.  Stubborn is probably the most ardent and disgusting dogmatic anti-sedevacantist and dogmatic Feeneyite on the forum.  His lack of charity has very few rivals.

And here I remember you saying that you don't even read what I post anyway, so you wouldn't know any more than LoE would know.

If you would ever accept the challenge and actually reply to my posts (which you said you don't even read) or answer some questions one of these days, you'd find yourself to be the disgusting one thank you very much.

Always remember, every pope the Church has ever had is and always was, a dogmatic anti-sedevacantist, I'd say while you think it disgusting, I'd say that's a pretty good group to be a part of.

The proof is in your reply - same old non-answer the post, just shoot the messenger - - -same o same o typical dogmatic sedevacantist reply.

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3. “I don’t know if the time has come to say that the pope is a heretic (…) Perhaps after this famous meeting of Assisi, perhaps we must say that the pope is a heretic, is apostate. Now I don’t wish yet to say it formally and solemnly, but it seems at first sight that it is impossible for a pope to be formally and publicly heretical. (…) So it is possible we may be obliged to believe this pope is not pope.” (Talk, March 30 and April 18, 1986, text published in The Angelus, July 1986)

.........as he kicks out "the nine" for their sedevacantism - among other things.

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3. “I don’t know if the time has come to say that the pope is a heretic (…) Perhaps after this famous meeting of Assisi, perhaps we must say that the pope is a heretic, is apostate. Now I don’t wish yet to say it formally and solemnly, but it seems at first sight that it is impossible for a pope to be formally and publicly heretical. (…) So it is possible we may be obliged to believe this pope is not pope.” (Talk, March 30 and April 18, 1986, text published in The Angelus, July 1986)

.........as he kicks out "the nine" for their sedevacantism - among other things.

One point I feel certain about is +ABL is sedevacantist today because it is a fact that when we pass into the next life, knowledge is given to us that we did not have is this life.  

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And here I remember you saying that you don't even read what I post anyway, so you wouldn't know any more than LoE would know.

I'm often reading posts before I notice who wrote them.  Someone recently posted a clip of a movie where the character says that everyone in the room is now dumber for having listened to someone.  It is the perfect clip to describe what happens every time you post on CathInfo.  

Stubbornness is not a virtue.

Neither is ignorance of the truth, which you willingly wallow in.

And same o same o dogmatic sedevacantist reply.

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ABL:

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3. “I don’t know if the time has come to say that the pope is a heretic (…) Perhaps after this famous meeting of Assisi, perhaps we must say that the pope is a heretic, is apostate. Now I don’t wish yet to say it formally and solemnly, but it seems at first sight that it is impossible for a pope to be formally and publicly heretical. (…) So it is possible we may be obliged to believe this pope is not pope.” (Talk, March 30 and April 18, 1986, text published in The Angelus, July 1986)

.........as he kicks out "the nine" for their sedevacantism - among other things.

One point I feel certain about is +ABL is sedevacantist today because it is a fact that when we pass into the next life, knowledge is given to us that we did not have is this life.  

That's not surprising you'd feel certain of that.

Thanks Stubborn!

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ABL:

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3. “I don’t know if the time has come to say that the pope is a heretic (…) Perhaps after this famous meeting of Assisi, perhaps we must say that the pope is a heretic, is apostate. Now I don’t wish yet to say it formally and solemnly, but it seems at first sight that it is impossible for a pope to be formally and publicly heretical. (…) So it is possible we may be obliged to believe this pope is not pope.” (Talk, March 30 and April 18, 1986, text published in The Angelus, July 1986)

.........as he kicks out "the nine" for their sedevacantism - among other things.

One point I feel certain about is +ABL is sedevacantist today because it is a fact that when we pass into the next life, knowledge is given to us that we did not have is this life.  

That's not surprising you'd feel certain of that.

Thanks Stubborn!

You're welcome!

Just remember that +ABL, if God willing, he is in heaven, is now among all the popes in heaven, who by default were themselves all anti-sedevacantists.

Of course, all the popes that are in heaven were True popes not Freemasons or wolves in sheep's clothing.  I hate to sound like roscoe, but in those days there were no sedevacantists to be anti about, in the sense the word is used today.  Even the Anti-popes were Catholic.  

I have no idea where the Conciliar dead "popes" of Vatican II are and I do not even want to speculate on where. We will leave that up to the Feeneyites, for we all know the Catholic church teaches No Salvation Outside the Church, however, Vatican II of which is not the Catholic Church and of which the Conciliarist belong is quite frightening yet,   John XXIII his words "Stop the Council, Stop the Council" give me hope that God will give His grace at His perfect time for each one of them.