Author Topic: The SSPX - Resistance is superior to sedevacantism (Read 25856 times)

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #190 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:16:02 AM »

Dogmatic feeneyites could never admit there there is even the most remote or even the slightest possibility that there is salvation apart from water. IOW, dogmatic sedevacantists believe No Salvation Apart From Wateras if the opinion itself is dogmatic or based on dogma.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #191 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:20:07 AM »

I'm not sure if "Dogmatic SV" is a theological term. What the inventor of that term might wish to convey is that this is one who claims one cannot be saved unless he is a SV.

Now it Divine Law that a public heretic cannot be Pope.

And it is Dogma that we must submit to a valid Pope.

If believing either of those two things is being a Dogmatic SV then I am guilty as charged. And quite willingly so.

TKGS · « **Reply #192 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:25:53 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn

Quote from: MyrnaM
I notice this term being tossed around this ENTIRE forum lately; "Dogmatic Sedevacantists" and frankly I admit I am confused with the definition of it. I think different people here have different ideas of what it actually means.

What does it mean to you or are you just posting the term because ... it is popular to do so?

My own definition of the term means if you are not a sede when you die you are ripe for Hell, no doubt about it. Who here says that?

The only Dogmatic Sedevacantist I know of would be the Dimond people, or another example of "Dogmatic Hellbound judging" fits the Feeneyites position.

To explain sedevacantism or to defend it is not being Dogmatic! I think others like to toss it around because they feel guilty about some issue they do not want to face.

Maybe this post is taking this thread in a different direction but it still fits the Title of the thread.

The dogmatic sedevacantists, like LoE and even yourself for example...

I refer to my post above. Stubborn is probably the most ardent and disgusting dogmatic anti-sedevacantist and dogmatic Feeneyite on the forum. His lack of charity has very few rivals.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #193 on:** July 28, 2016, 11:32:35 AM »

Quote from: TKGS

Quote from: Stubborn
Quote from: MyrnaM
I notice this term being tossed around this ENTIRE forum lately; "Dogmatic Sedevacantists" and frankly I admit I am confused with the definition of it. I think different people here have different ideas of what it actually means.

What does it mean to you or are you just posting the term because ... it is popular to do so?

My own definition of the term means if you are not a sede when you die you are ripe for Hell, no doubt about it. Who here says that?

The only Dogmatic Sedevacantist I know of would be the Dimond people, or another example of "Dogmatic Hellbound judging" fits the Feeneyites position.

To explain sedevacantism or to defend it is not being Dogmatic! I think others like to toss it around because they feel guilty about some issue they do not want to face.

Maybe this post is taking this thread in a different direction but it still fits the Title of the thread.

The dogmatic sedevacantists, like LoE and even yourself for example...

I refer to my post above. Stubborn is probably the most ardent and disgusting dogmatic anti-sedevacantist and dogmatic Feeneyite on the forum. His lack of charity has very few rivals.

I could not possibly agree more.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #194 on:** July 28, 2016, 02:17:35 PM »

ABL:

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3. “I don’t know if the time has come to say that the pope is a heretic (…) Perhaps after this famous meeting of Assisi, perhaps we must say that the pope is a heretic, is apostate. Now I don’t wish yet to say it formally and solemnly, but it seems at first sight that it is impossible for a pope to be formally and publicly heretical. (…) So it is possible we may be obliged to believe this pope is not pope.” (Talk, March 30 and April 18, 1986, text published in The Angelus, July 1986)