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The SSPX - Resistance is superior to sedevacantism
« Reply #165 on: July 16, 2016, 09:38:28 AM »
Internet articles come off as arrogance due to our fallen imagination. I often have to fight myself when I desire to impute evil to a person making an Internet argument.

The SSPX - Resistance is superior to sedevacantism
« Reply #166 on: July 18, 2016, 12:29:01 PM »
Quote from: St Ignatius
Quote from: Lover of Truth
Quote from: St Ignatius
If he was so "open to the idea," why did the Archbishop convince Bishop Castro  Mayor not to succuмb to the ideology of sedevacantism?


 :facepalm:

To avoid another foolish post like your post above, read the article I posted on this thread, then try to post in an informed and intelligent manner.  


I'm not going to take heed to your suggestion. Let me tell you why.

When I first began reading about the subject of sedevacantism, this was before the internet, I found that most people who argued the case at least showed common decency and showed a capacity of independent thought. You, on the other hand, show a certain level of arrogance. I have observed a certain pattern with the contemporary sedevacantist, but not all of them, that they tend to be a "cut and paste" crowd.

You have not acknowledged certain previous posters who had important perspectives and questions. It seems to me, by reading your countless posts on the subject, you have no interest in what others have to say. You definitely give the impression that you're right and anyone who may disagree with you in any way, is not worthy of your time. (Although, I do see you argue for the sake of argument to demonstrate your perceived intelligence.)

If you truly had a love of what you present, I'd think you'd try to reach out in a more charitable manner. But, by reading your posts I can't help but to question your motives.  They seem to be of pride and not of one's own studious convictions.  They have the hallmark of a master of "cut and paste" which you have definitely demonstrated in the manner which you post.



And your response is not antagonistic?  My ability to cut and paste?  This is because I present the teachings of others and not my own.  I don't trust myself enough to pull things out of a hat.  

People who do not want the truth will come up with all sorts of lame excuses like the one above.

I post a very informative article very relevant to the topic and people do not want to read it.

Why?

Because in their extreme shallowness they have concluded they do not want to come to any conclusions that go against what is more convenient for them to believe.  

Character assassination is the tactic of one who cannot win the debate because he does not have truth on his side.  It is like Mike Tyson biting an ear off because he does not want to lose fair and square.

If you have something that is not childish to discuss on the topic feel free to post something informed and intelligent sounding as I said before.  If my wanting to see a post from an R & R that argues to the point rather than ad hominem seems "arrogant" to you so be it.  Judge me as you like.  But I stand by my point.  I judge your words.  You judge my inner motives.  If your strongest  argument against SV is that I'm arrogant that shows the foundation you are standing upon.  

Happy culpable ignorance.   :cheers:



The SSPX - Resistance is superior to sedevacantism
« Reply #167 on: July 18, 2016, 09:22:47 PM »
Quote from: Lover of Truth
Quote from: St Ignatius
Quote from: Lover of Truth
Quote from: St Ignatius
If he was so "open to the idea," why did the Archbishop convince Bishop Castro  Mayor not to succuмb to the ideology of sedevacantism?


 :facepalm:

To avoid another foolish post like your post above, read the article I posted on this thread, then try to post in an informed and intelligent manner.  


I'm not going to take heed to your suggestion. Let me tell you why.

When I first began reading about the subject of sedevacantism, this was before the internet, I found that most people who argued the case at least showed common decency and showed a capacity of independent thought. You, on the other hand, show a certain level of arrogance. I have observed a certain pattern with the contemporary sedevacantist, but not all of them, that they tend to be a "cut and paste" crowd.

You have not acknowledged certain previous posters who had important perspectives and questions. It seems to me, by reading your countless posts on the subject, you have no interest in what others have to say. You definitely give the impression that you're right and anyone who may disagree with you in any way, is not worthy of your time. (Although, I do see you argue for the sake of argument to demonstrate your perceived intelligence.)

If you truly had a love of what you present, I'd think you'd try to reach out in a more charitable manner. But, by reading your posts I can't help but to question your motives.  They seem to be of pride and not of one's own studious convictions.  They have the hallmark of a master of "cut and paste" which you have definitely demonstrated in the manner which you post.



And your response is not antagonistic?  My ability to cut and paste?  This is because I present the teachings of others and not my own.  I don't trust myself enough to pull things out of a hat.  

People who do not want the truth will come up with all sorts of lame excuses like the one above.

I post a very informative article very relevant to the topic and people do not want to read it.

Why?

Because in their extreme shallowness they have concluded they do not want to come to any conclusions that go against what is more convenient for them to believe.  

Character assassination is the tactic of one who cannot win the debate because he does not have truth on his side.  It is like Mike Tyson biting an ear off because he does not want to lose fair and square.

If you have something that is not childish to discuss on the topic feel free to post something informed and intelligent sounding as I said before.  If my wanting to see a post from an R & R that argues to the point rather than ad hominem seems "arrogant" to you so be it.  Judge me as you like.  But I stand by my point.  I judge your words.  You judge my inner motives.  If your strongest  argument against SV is that I'm arrogant that shows the foundation you are standing upon.  

Happy culpable ignorance.   :cheers:



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This is because I present the teachings of others and not my own.  I don't trust myself enough to pull things out of a hat.

Thank you for your honesty... you are presenting more evidence to support my suspicions of your ignorance/arrogance.

1. I'm supposed to accept that whatever argument you may present as true because they are from someone who knows how to pull things out of a hat.

2. I'm supposed to believe anything you parrot, even though you can't think for yourself, that you can discern for me who's right and who's not.

3. And with your admitted ingnorance, you can with absolute certainty tell me the Pope is not the Pope.

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People who do not want the truth will come up with all sorts of lame excuses like the one above.

So if you are not familiar/comfortable with a statement that is not agreeable , it must not be.

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Character assassination is the tactic of one who cannot win the debate because he does not have truth on his side

You poor victim!

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If you have something that is not childish to discuss on the topic feel free to post something informed and intelligent sounding as I said before.

You are so "Wet behind the ears," I'm not going to waste my time on you (this I say because of experience/wisdom from dealing with people like you for years). I think I'll try out this "Ignore" function and see how it works.  Maybe when I come home from a long tiring day of work, I don't have to read your nonsense.

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You judge my inner motives. 

Just judging by what and how things seem to come out your mouth.  

The SSPX - Resistance is superior to sedevacantism
« Reply #168 on: July 19, 2016, 05:40:19 AM »
Quote from: St Ignatius
Quote from: Lover of Truth
Quote from: St Ignatius
Quote from: Lover of Truth
Quote from: St Ignatius
If he was so "open to the idea," why did the Archbishop convince Bishop Castro  Mayor not to succuмb to the ideology of sedevacantism?


 :facepalm:

To avoid another foolish post like your post above, read the article I posted on this thread, then try to post in an informed and intelligent manner.  


I'm not going to take heed to your suggestion. Let me tell you why.

When I first began reading about the subject of sedevacantism, this was before the internet, I found that most people who argued the case at least showed common decency and showed a capacity of independent thought. You, on the other hand, show a certain level of arrogance. I have observed a certain pattern with the contemporary sedevacantist, but not all of them, that they tend to be a "cut and paste" crowd.

You have not acknowledged certain previous posters who had important perspectives and questions. It seems to me, by reading your countless posts on the subject, you have no interest in what others have to say. You definitely give the impression that you're right and anyone who may disagree with you in any way, is not worthy of your time. (Although, I do see you argue for the sake of argument to demonstrate your perceived intelligence.)

If you truly had a love of what you present, I'd think you'd try to reach out in a more charitable manner. But, by reading your posts I can't help but to question your motives.  They seem to be of pride and not of one's own studious convictions.  They have the hallmark of a master of "cut and paste" which you have definitely demonstrated in the manner which you post.



And your response is not antagonistic?  My ability to cut and paste?  This is because I present the teachings of others and not my own.  I don't trust myself enough to pull things out of a hat.  

People who do not want the truth will come up with all sorts of lame excuses like the one above.

I post a very informative article very relevant to the topic and people do not want to read it.

Why?

Because in their extreme shallowness they have concluded they do not want to come to any conclusions that go against what is more convenient for them to believe.  

Character assassination is the tactic of one who cannot win the debate because he does not have truth on his side.  It is like Mike Tyson biting an ear off because he does not want to lose fair and square.

If you have something that is not childish to discuss on the topic feel free to post something informed and intelligent sounding as I said before.  If my wanting to see a post from an R & R that argues to the point rather than ad hominem seems "arrogant" to you so be it.  Judge me as you like.  But I stand by my point.  I judge your words.  You judge my inner motives.  If your strongest  argument against SV is that I'm arrogant that shows the foundation you are standing upon.  

Happy culpable ignorance.   :cheers:



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This is because I present the teachings of others and not my own.  I don't trust myself enough to pull things out of a hat.

Thank you for your honesty... you are presenting more evidence to support my suspicions of your ignorance/arrogance.

1. I'm supposed to accept that whatever argument you may present as true because they are from someone who knows how to pull things out of a hat.

2. I'm supposed to believe anything you parrot, even though you can't think for yourself, that you can discern for me who's right and who's not.

3. And with your admitted ingnorance, you can with absolute certainty tell me the Pope is not the Pope.

Quote
People who do not want the truth will come up with all sorts of lame excuses like the one above.

So if you are not familiar/comfortable with a statement that is not agreeable , it must not be.

Quote
Character assassination is the tactic of one who cannot win the debate because he does not have truth on his side

You poor victim!

Quote
If you have something that is not childish to discuss on the topic feel free to post something informed and intelligent sounding as I said before.

You are so "Wet behind the ears," I'm not going to waste my time on you (this I say because of experience/wisdom from dealing with people like you for years). I think I'll try out this "Ignore" function and see how it works.  Maybe when I come home from a long tiring day of work, I don't have to read your nonsense.

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You judge my inner motives. 

Just judging by what and how things seem to come out your mouth.  


Thank you for your keen insights. I hope eventually we can get back on topic after we have finished our pre-school antics.  If you have any more baby stuff to post I give you the opportunity to have the last word.  I post the truth for the sincere who actually care about it.  

The SSPX - Resistance is superior to sedevacantism
« Reply #169 on: July 19, 2016, 09:00:12 AM »
ABL:

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“You know, for some time, many people, the sedevacantists, have been saying, ‘there is no more pope’. But I think that for me it was not yet the time to say that, because it was not sure, it was not evident…” (Talk, March 30 and April 18, 1986, text published in The Angelus, July 1986)