Author Topic: The SSPX - Resistance is superior to sedevacantism (Read 25925 times)

PG · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2016, 01:25:09 PM »

LOT - that comment was mainly referring to those R&R who dislike +Williamson. Sedes generally are respectful of +Lefebvre.

But, that comment also can apply to sedes. It is not the popes place to tell us how to tie our shoes and comb our hair. Popes have their own thorns to pluck.

Meg · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2016, 03:38:25 PM »

Quote from: Lover of Truth

I did not even read the post because the title itself was so repulsive. More and more since bergolio people are trying to convince themselves, kind of like DePauw in the 60's.

He's just gotta be Pope. He's just gotta.

Believe it or not, some of us (maybe more than a few) don't really spend a lot of time worrying about whether Francis is pope or not. I get the impression that Sedes think that non-Sedes are always trying to convince themselves that the Pope is really the Pope. I don't think that's necessarily the case. Is Pope Francis a modernist who is trying to change the Church? Yes. But our Lord did not guarantee that we'd never have a Pope who would hold heretical views.

I, for one, don't obsess over it. But I often think that some Sedevacantists obsess over the issue, and rarely think of anything else. Maybe I'm wrong about that.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2016, 04:06:14 PM »

Quote from: Meg

I, for one, don't obsess over it. But I often think that some Sedevacantists obsess over the issue, and rarely think of anything else. Maybe I'm wrong about that.

It would be interesting if someone would pick all the topics out that were started here about the misgivings of what Francis is doing, or saying, and looking who is reporting them, sedevacantists or SSPX.

Maybe Matthew will have to insert another icon on our posts, not only showing who is a man or woman, but who is a sede or SSPX or otherwise in order to have a correct and accurate statistic.

Example: SSPX could have a miter sitting in a chair, an undecided would have a miter sitting on a fence, and a sede might have an empty chair.

Example: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Pope-vows-that-he-wont-slow-down-for-Ultra-Conservatives
Started by Matthew

TKGS · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2016, 05:12:55 PM »

I don't think Matthew and other anti-sedevacantists actually read anything we write. It is not we who must justify our position of keeping the Catholic Faith in its entirety, but the Recognize and Resist folks, which includes the Resistance, who must justify their rejection of their pope.

Matthew · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2016, 05:47:15 PM »

Quote from: MyrnaM

Are you trying to convince the sedevacantist or yourself with this topic?

Just curious!

Convince others, of course.

Here is a parable, which kind of explains why I get upset when people attack the OLD SSPX, on this Resistance-friendly forum that regularly bashes the neo-SSPX:

John's mother, at the age of 60, decided to divorce her husband of 40 years and run off with a younger man, who also happens to be much more adventurous than her old husband ever was. Their first marriage was in the Catholic church, and certainly valid.

John was complaining about this to a few friends and coworkers of his, how this causes all kinds of problems for him, especially now that he has children of his own.

One of his co-workers pipes up, "yeah, your mother always was a whore, wasn't she!".

John punches the co-worker in the face for talking about his mother that way.

The co-worker, in disbelief, and wiping a bit of blood off his lips with his right sleeve, bellows out,

"Why did you hit me for? You're complaining about your mother. I'm on YOUR side, against her, right?"

John explains: "No, you're not. I'm complaining about a fall that took place when she was 60 years old. She married my father with all good intentions 40 years ago. She was faithful to him all those years. Until she went crazy recently, I had nothing to reproach her about. You suggest that she was always a whore, and that simply isn't true!"