Author Topic: The SSPX - Resistance is superior to sedevacantism (Read 25921 times)

Sbyvl · « **Reply #145 on:** July 15, 2016, 06:41:41 AM »

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Lover of Truth,

You implied that Archbishop Lefebvre was a Sedevacantist. So, in your view, if someone is open to the idea, then this automatically makes them an Sedevacantist?

Here's just one more example that anti-sedevacantists simply don't read anything that sedevacantists write. Either that, or they are willfully blind and will not understand what is written.

Okay, I'll put the simple question to you (since Lover of Truth doesn't want to address it directly): was ABL, in your view, a Sedevacantist?

He was open to the idea.

He was open to the idea.

He was open to the idea.

Do you get it?

Do you or do you not understand the distinction between being open to the idea and actually holding the idea fast or not? Be honest if you can. Maybe you really are as ignorant as you seem. If so I apologize for the harshness of my response.

Did you read the article I sent that quotes him at leangth on this topic?

If he was so "open to the idea," why did the Archbishop convince Bishop Castro Mayor not to succuмb to the ideology of sedevacantism?

To avoid another foolish post like your post above, read the article I posted on this thread, then try to post in an informed and intelligent manner.

You know, Lover of Truth, you should not have a picture of St. John Marie Vianney attached to your username. He would never have treated people the way that you do. You have a superiority complex. He did not.

If what you were posting in this thread were true, you wouldn't need to resort to an ad hominem.

TKGS · « **Reply #146 on:** July 15, 2016, 07:09:22 AM »

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If he was so "open to the idea," why did the Archbishop convince Bishop Castro Mayor not to succuмb to the ideology of sedevacantism?

Source? According to every source I have ever read, Bishop Castro Mayer told people at the consecration of the four SSPX bishops that "We have no pope".

Croixalist · « **Reply #147 on:** July 15, 2016, 07:35:41 AM »

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Yes, after he left I had heard that he believed as I said that he was the only one, therefore he thought himself a pope, of course he was wrong, or do you believe it? You are the one who seems obsessed with him. He never declared from the pulpit that he was the pope.

That still is not heresy; after all your guy Francis thinks he is a pope.

At least Schuckardt spoke Catholic doctrine, which is more than I can say about your guy.

I'd call that cold comfort there, Myrna. I'm also not going to defend the indefensible as far as Francis goes. One Pope can judge another's pontificate, and that's what I'm holding out for. Official action by the right people is crucial to maintain the Catholic order of things. I just happen to think it will take both the temporal and spiritual wings of the Church to overcome the present corruption.

Now if you ask me, a better comparison to Schuckardt might be a Pope who was better at playing the role of conservative when it suited him like JPII or BXVI. My only question in regards to Pope Francis at this point is whether he'll even be buried. I'm less interested in Schukardt than I am the people who feel compelled to defend him. Even so, 3 posts does not an obsession make.

Anyway, I know a lot of you guys are decent people trying your hardest not to lose it completely in the face of this sheer blasphemy. It's being vomited on a daily basis! If we live to see the end of it, I hope we won't have too much to confess, myself included. I wish you well, but as we can see there are a lot of opportunists out there just waiting to take advantage of the situation. False prophets and false saviors and little antichrists abound.

God bless you all.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #148 on:** July 15, 2016, 07:44:19 AM »

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Yes, after he left I had heard that he believed as I said that he was the only one, therefore he thought himself a pope, of course he was wrong, or do you believe it? You are the one who seems obsessed with him. He never declared from the pulpit that he was the pope.

That still is not heresy; after all your guy Francis thinks he is a pope.

At least Schuckardt spoke Catholic doctrine, which is more than I can say about your guy.

I'd call that cold comfort there, Myrna. I'm also not going to defend the indefensible as far as Francis goes. One Pope can judge another's pontificate, and that's what I'm holding out for. Official action by the right people is crucial to maintain the Catholic order of things. I just happen to think it will take both the temporal and spiritual wings of the Church to overcome the present corruption.

Now if you ask me, a better comparison to Schuckardt might be a Pope who was better at playing the role of conservative when it suited him like JPII or BXVI. My only question in regards to Pope Francis at this point is whether he'll even be buried. I'm less interested in Schukardt than I am the people who feel compelled to defend him. Even so, 3 posts does not an obsession make.

Anyway, I know a lot of you guys are decent people trying your hardest not to lose it completely in the face of this sheer blasphemy. It's being vomited on a daily basis! If we live to see the end of it, I hope we won't have too much to confess, myself included. I wish you well, but as we can see there are a lot of opportunists out there just waiting to take advantage of the situation. False prophets and false saviors and little antichrists abound.

God bless you all.

Thanks for the note, however don't get the idea I am defending Schukardt, it is what it is. CMRI is nothing today as it was in his time. God made lemonade out of lemons as the saying goes.

Lover of Truth · « **Reply #149 on:** July 15, 2016, 07:55:29 AM »

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Lover of Truth,

You implied that Archbishop Lefebvre was a Sedevacantist. So, in your view, if someone is open to the idea, then this automatically makes them an Sedevacantist?

Here's just one more example that anti-sedevacantists simply don't read anything that sedevacantists write. Either that, or they are willfully blind and will not understand what is written.

Okay, I'll put the simple question to you (since Lover of Truth doesn't want to address it directly): was ABL, in your view, a Sedevacantist?

He was open to the idea.

He was open to the idea.

He was open to the idea.

Do you get it?

Do you or do you not understand the distinction between being open to the idea and actually holding the idea fast or not? Be honest if you can. Maybe you really are as ignorant as you seem. If so I apologize for the harshness of my response.

Did you read the article I sent that quotes him at leangth on this topic?

If he was so "open to the idea," why did the Archbishop convince Bishop Castro Mayor not to succuмb to the ideology of sedevacantism?

To avoid another foolish post like your post above, read the article I posted on this thread, then try to post in an informed and intelligent manner.

You know, Lover of Truth, you should not have a picture of St. John Marie Vianney attached to your username. He would never have treated people the way that you do. You have a superiority complex. He did not.

I said he was open to the idea. Please let me know if you need further explanation.