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Poche says:

Cardinal Agostino Vallini, the Pope’s vicar for the Rome diocese, has issued guidelines for the implementation of Amoris Laetitia, indicating that divorced and remarried couples might be admitted to Communion only in unusual cases and with strict limitations.

Judging from the experiences from the past, this will mean nothing to the
typical novus ordo parish because communion has been handed out liberally
for years without any unusual cases and absolutely no strict limitations.
Communion in the hand is a prime example. Absolutely no parish in and
around my area can you receive communion kneeling and on the tongue.

Exactly; this completely back-doors the entire process ... with the back door WIDE OPEN.  Once you let parish priests work with people to form their consciences, it's about 10 days away from open season on communion for public adulterers.

Adulterers have been receiving Holy Communion for years within novus ordo. They even hand it out.
They are also involved in leading ministries and teaching catechism.

Someone sent me a link to a NCR news article on Cardinal Burke:

http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/amoris-laetitia-and-the-constant-teaching-and-practice-of-the-church

Evidently, as my friend quipped, Burke "folded like a house of cards".  So much for resisting anything.  And this, quite frankly, was written some months ago.

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So where is Cardinal Burke and Bishop Athanasius Schneider on this?

     

How can they be asleep?  Weren't there interviews and news articles telling us that they were going to "resist" what has been done by the Vatican?  So...how are they "resisting"?

Are they resisting by staying way, way under the radar and completely out of the public?

Now that Francis made absolutely clear that the purpose of Amoris Laetitia is to admit divorced and "remarried" to Communion, Schneider's and Burke's options of resisting without explicitly opposing Bergoglio (which they'd probably prefer to avoid) are extremely limited. They will have to make their choice very soon.

That is interesting that he should say that because that is not what the docuмent says.

Archbishop Alexander Sample of Portland, Oregon, has added his name to the list of prelates who have said that Church teaching on marriage is unchanged by Amoris Laetitia.

In a pastoral letter, Archbishop Sample says that the apostolic exhortation has been misinterpreted in order to suggest a break with perennial Church teaching. “While the exhortation does not contain any change in Church teaching regarding marriage and family life, some have used Amoris Laetitia in ways that do not correspond with the Church’s teaching tradition,” he says.

The archbishop argues against the notion that a pastors should show a merciful attitude toward couples in illict unions by respecting their individual judgments. “Encouraging or silently accepting an erroneous judgment of conscience is neither mercy nor charity,” he says.

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=29594#

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Poche says:

Cardinal Agostino Vallini, the Pope’s vicar for the Rome diocese, has issued guidelines for the implementation of Amoris Laetitia, indicating that divorced and remarried couples might be admitted to Communion only in unusual cases and with strict limitations.

Judging from the experiences from the past, this will mean nothing to the
typical novus ordo parish because communion has been handed out liberally
for years without any unusual cases and absolutely no strict limitations.
Communion in the hand is a prime example. Absolutely no parish in and
around my area can you receive communion kneeling and on the tongue.

Where I live it is very common to see people kneel down to receive communion on the tongue.

What area do you live?   I have not seen anyone kneeling and having communion
on the tongue in a novus ordo parish since the 1980's.

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Archbishop Alexander Sample of Portland, Oregon, has added his name to the list of prelates who have said that Church teaching on marriage is unchanged by Amoris Laetitia.

Given the way the Conciliar church hands out "annulments", I'd say the Conciliar archbishop of Portland is correct that his church's teachings on marriage is unchanged by the docuмent.

On the other hand, the docuмent is absolutely opposed to Catholic teaching--something about which Alex is completely ignorant--or, more probably, absolutely despises.

Poche always thinks he's found a shiny diamond in the steaming pile of Novus Ordo crap, but it's usually nothing but cubic zirconia.

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Archbishop Alexander Sample of Portland, Oregon, has added his name to the list of prelates who have said that Church teaching on marriage is unchanged by Amoris Laetitia.

Given the way the Conciliar church hands out "annulments", I'd say the Conciliar archbishop of Portland is correct that his church's teachings on marriage is unchanged by the docuмent.

On the other hand, the docuмent is absolutely opposed to Catholic teaching--something about which Alex is completely ignorant--or, more probably, absolutely despises.

Poche always thinks he's found a shiny diamond in the steaming pile of Novus Ordo crap, but it's usually nothing but cubic zirconia.

The real diamond is found in the true presence of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament.

Poche, here's a sincere question for you.

What would you do if you were in the worst diocese imaginable with no reverent parish and Mass anywhere?

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Archbishop Alexander Sample of Portland, Oregon, has added his name to the list of prelates who have said that Church teaching on marriage is unchanged by Amoris Laetitia.

Given the way the Conciliar church hands out "annulments", I'd say the Conciliar archbishop of Portland is correct that his church's teachings on marriage is unchanged by the docuмent.

On the other hand, the docuмent is absolutely opposed to Catholic teaching--something about which Alex is completely ignorant--or, more probably, absolutely despises.

Poche always thinks he's found a shiny diamond in the steaming pile of Novus Ordo crap, but it's usually nothing but cubic zirconia.

The real diamond is found in the true presence of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament.

Poche, here's a sincere question for you.

What would you do if you were in the worst diocese imaginable with no reverent parish and Mass anywhere?

I would pray to God and ask for the Holy Mass to be celebrated reverently. I would go frequently to confession because it could be that God has deemed me unworthy of having access to the reverent celebration of the Holy Mass.
Prayer and union with Christ.
If Christ is with me who can be against me?