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Offline Geremia

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The rotten fruits of Lumen Gentiums "subsistit in"
« on: August 23, 2014, 03:59:03 PM »
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    • A Novus (dis)Ordo priest(?) is "united" with "Bp." Tony Palmer and denies one of the 4 marks of the Catholic Church: it's unity.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/iQRJdmLTUfI[/youtube]
    "Can you imagine that if in our generation the Church would be one again? Wouldn't that be awesome?"
    He actually does make the distinction between external/internal unity, but does that really matter when he considers heretics and schismatics parts of the Church anyways? He thus desires unity in something that is not the Catholic Church. Yet, he assumes everyone is already united to the Church by the fact they're human! He desires, at the expense of truth, concord among those who disagree (such concord at the expense of truth is bad), but to assume everyone is already united to the Church by the fact they're human is heresy. Unity ≠ concord; unity is in doctrine, belief, and truth of the Catholic faith.

    Here's "Bp." Tony Palmer:
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/YrS4IDTLavQ[/youtube]
    See also Francis's response beginning at ~28:27.
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    The rotten fruits of Lumen Gentiums "subsistit in"
    « Reply #1 on: August 23, 2014, 04:07:42 PM »
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    • Francis says: "the miracle of unity has begun"! And that God will finish the miracle well! He, too, thus publicly denies the 1st Mark of the Church!
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    The rotten fruits of Lumen Gentiums "subsistit in"
    « Reply #2 on: August 23, 2014, 08:01:15 PM »
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    • All the Cushingites believe in "subsistence" ecclesiology.
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    The rotten fruits of Lumen Gentiums "subsistit in"
    « Reply #3 on: August 23, 2014, 09:42:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus
    All the Cushingites believe in "subsistence" ecclesiology.

    Most Catholic minds which have been formed in the modern way, believe some form of that.
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    The rotten fruits of Lumen Gentiums "subsistit in"
    « Reply #4 on: August 23, 2014, 09:56:21 PM »
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    All the Cushingites believe in "subsistence" ecclesiology.
    What are Cushingites?
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    Offline Ambrose

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    « Reply #5 on: August 23, 2014, 10:33:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Geremia
    Quote from: Ladislaus
    All the Cushingites believe in "subsistence" ecclesiology.
    What are Cushingites?


    Ladislaus has broken Matthew's rules by bringing up this subject here.

    Per Matthew's rules, I will answer your question in the Feeneyite subforum.  
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    The rotten fruits of Lumen Gentiums "subsistit in"
    « Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 06:24:57 PM »
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    • Sorry...I got about 5 seconds into the video and couldn't get past the horrendous Novus Ordo vestments and I'm sure I wasn't the only one who did the same thing either.

    A Lutheran minister could have been the host of this video
    - and said the same exact thing.

    My stomach (and my soul) couldn't take more that 5 seconds of this clap trap.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 07:15:16 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ambrose
    Quote from: Geremia
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    All the Cushingites believe in "subsistence" ecclesiology.
    What are Cushingites?


    Ladislaus has broken Matthew's rules by bringing up this subject here.

    Per Matthew's rules, I will answer your question in the Feeneyite subforum.  


    Playing teacher's pet now, are you?

     :roll-laugh1:
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