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No, you don't understand what you are saying at all. Also, you evaded the simple question that would have proved you wrong from what you had yourself said earlier.

Anyway, with regard to what you said, you yourself conceded that Trent teaches perfect contrition with respect to penance. Can you prove this from the deposit of revelation? From the Fathers? I doubt it.

But at least once Trent had affirmed it, it would henceforth be held unanimously by theologians that the Church had closed the question.

This is what St.Alphonsus and St.Robert Bellarmine, two illustrious Doctors, Saints and theologians par excellence, along with all other theologians, also say with respect to Baptism of desire, after Trent, at least, there is no more question. St.Alphonsus says it must be held as de fide on account of Trent, for the truth of baptism of desire is equally certain as the truth of the necessity of baptism.

Show me a single theologian, let alone, Saint or Doctor of the Church who has treated the matter as if it were open to dispute at least after Trent. It is not.

Remember the Church sometimes leaves some doctrines, when it is not yet evident that they belong to the deposit of faith, open for dispute, in order that a more coherent case may be eventually made for its dogmatic definition. This was so for example with the dogma of the Immaculate Conception, where Scotus' theological reflections were most useful, and with some specifics of Papal Infallibility.

Laymen, who belong only to the Church taught should only ever have the attitude of students learning with all humility and docility toward the teaching Church.

The teaching Church are assisted by theologians  in communicating the teaching of the faith and the Church to us. So what the constant teaching of theologians tells us is what questions the Church has definitively settled.

It is now, at least after Trent as St.Alphonsus says, no more lawful now to call into question baptism of desire than it is to call into question any of the other doctrines of the faith or those mentioned above. Show me a single learned authority to the contrary.

And with that, I say good-by. I have a family and duties.

Right, what Pope Pius IX is telling us is, if theologians, especially theologians known to be solid, orthodox and traditional and approved as such by the Church for a long time, whose manuals and writings were long used in seminaries etc, are unanimously agreed a dogma or doctrine has been precisely defined as such, then we are bound to hold that that dogma or doctrine has been precisely defined as such. It's not as if we suddenly discovered a Council or a Papal docuмent they were not aware of, in fact they would know it, and a whole lot of other things, far better than we do.

Theologians lay out in specific and easily accessible detail for the Church taught the doctrine of the teaching Church adapting it for lay perusal, and it would be completely out of place for individual students to assert all their teachers had erred in classifying a dogma or a doctrine as such.

Anyway, Bowler, we'll leave it at that if you will. I understand most people hold the "Feeneyite" view because they see some people today have no interest at all in winning non-Catholics to the faith, though I think it is an over-reaction. Anyway, my prayers for you and your family. God bless and Mary keep you all.