This topic is just another cheap shot at Pius XII. As a layman I am not qualified to evaluate whatever changes were made to the liturgy but at least( unlike John 23 & Paul 6) Pacelli is a real Pope.
Like another recent post there is no mention in the above that Pius XII was at odds with Montini & had him farmed out to Milan w/o the purple.
You know something, this is the most awesome thing you have posted!
"As a layman I am not qualified to evaluate whatever changes were made to the liturgy" - that's for "Father Moderator" (Mr. Morrison) to confess in all humility.
The very idea that Pius XII could have abetted the modernists' subversive anti-Christian agenda is disgusting.
But the "TRADITIO effect" is too commonplace amongst traditionalists, particularly some sedevacantists.
NEWS FLASH: Traditio is not a reliable source of information, and anything on there that is true is information Morrison got from somewhere else without duly acknowledging or citing the source.
I will say that the editor of traditio tends to exaggerate things. Things are bad enough, no need to make it
seem worse than it is.
I also wish he would put down whether the Masses are SV or not. He acts as if this is irrelevant (I have corresponded with him). Though it may be licit to attend an una cuм Benedictio it would be nice to know of alternatives when you travel. Also he is clearly not SV though he respects the "opinion".
I have not gone to the site regularly in years. And it has been years since I looked at his daily commentary which used to be, years ago, the only thing I looked at on his site. He does have some good stuff there though, the Divine Office for instance.
A reminder, that I was just reminded about, the SVs that have to attend the "una cuм Benedictio" Mass, remember, according to Father Stepanich, you have
expressly withhold consent to his name being in the canon:
To answer your questions briefly for now, let me just say that sedevacantist traditional Catholics can attend una cuм Benedicto Masses lawfully, provided that they expressly withhold approval of the Priest adding the name of No-Pope Benedict to the una cuм phrase in the Canon of the Mass. They may not merely disregard the naming of a false Pope, saying that’s the Priest’s problem, but must expressly disapprove of it, while approving only of the Priest offering the Sacrifice, the true Tridentine Latin Mass. …
I asked Mike Cain how one would "expressly" withhold consent [supposing what Father Stepanich says is accurate] and he said as follows (he does not believe we can attend but he allows people to disagree with him without punishing them):
By silently praying the following at the Diptychs of the Living in the Canon of the Mass in unison with the true priest celebrating holy Mass. If he isn't a true priest, you shouldn't be there. Period!
Here are the words used by the CMRI and sedevacantist priests:
"una cuм omnibus orthodoxis atque Catholicae, et Apostolicae Fidei cultoribus."
"unite and govern her throughout the world, together with all true believers and professors of the Catholic and Apostolic Faith."
And encouraging others to do likewise.
That would be "expressly withholding assent. Note, the true priests and bishops would be included as "all true believers and professors."
Gratefully that is what I was doing already.
Kind of off topic but there it is.
Topic: The Revolution Takes Hold Under Pius XII (Read 17256 times)